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Potential Rocket Profile: Jason Kidd

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 21, 2005.

  1. Clutch

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  2. sabirk

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    Great title and just say no to Jason Kidd.
     
  3. apostolic3

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    No Kidding.
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    I wouldn't mind the contract if he was 5 years younger. Why is it that superstars on the downfall of the peak express interest to play for the Rockets instead of wanting to play here sooner?

    Is there a humbling aspect of not playing only for the money?
     
  5. apostolic3

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    It's very easy to understand. Players want two things in their career: (1) A big fat paycheck & (2) A championship. Good to great players that win a championship first almost always go to the highest bidder when their contract is up. Good to great players that get huge contracts almost always care only about winning when they start the downside of their careers. Jason Kidd is in the latter category, which is why he became disgruntled with the franchise that guaranteed him $100 million after they let Kenyon Martin go. He wants it both ways. IMO, the Nets have a real shot at being an NBA Finals contender if they add a couple of pieces. But maybe Kidd realizes how much better he would make T-Mac & Yao and sees Houston as a good fit for him.

    No way we should touch him. Too may years left on that albatross of a contract and his microfractured knee scares me.
     
  6. RocketFire

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    too much of a risk. To me Pg is not a problem, its the PF. we need a good rebounding PF.
     
  7. Rockets34Legend

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    Wow, Jason Kidd. Not on this team.

    Great player and he says he wants to come here. Can we afford him? HELL NO!

    Stay away from him.
     
  8. The Real Shady

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    If Les is willing to pay a luxury tax when Yao gets a max contract then yes we can afford him. I just don't think the rockets would have enough to get him. Maybe Mike James, Juwon Howard, 1st round pick, and expiring contracts could do it, but I doubt it.
     
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    this question is purely hypothetical, but could it be possible (cba-wise) to have another team pick up part of his salary the way i think chicago or jersey is paying for most of deke's?
     
  10. DieHard Rocket

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    No to Kidd.

    His contract is too big. His health is questionable. More importantly, we don't need another guy that needs to have the ball in his hands constantly.

    We really don't need more than one guy that must have the ball in his hands often to be effective. His game is also much too fast paced for him to benefit Yao very much.

    Kidd needs to be on a team with quick, athletic guys on the wing (Jefferson, Marion) and at least one athletic big man that knows how to move without the ball (Stoudemire, Garnett). Obviously Pheonix already has a better PG...personally I think he'd be a great fit in Minnesota with Garnett, though I hope that doesn't happen because it could mean more competition for us.
     
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    Yeah, I'd kill to see Kidd run this team for a couple years on a reasonable contract, but his contract is nowhere near reasonable given his age and history of injury. If Mark Cuban owned this team, I'd probably be all for it. However, since Les Alexander owns this team, I think I'd rather see our money spent elsewhere.
     
  12. Win

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    Well, you layed things out pretty well regarding Kidd, Clutch.

    While I never posted as much, I WAS privately hoping there was a way he could be a Rocket. After reading your update I'm back in the real world again. :(
     
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    I'd rather see us throw a contract at Gary Payton before i'd be okay with us dealing for Kidd.
     
  14. real_egal

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    You can't just repeat that sentense to everyone that we don't need a guy who has to have the ball in his hands to be effective. He has been the best PG out there for the past few years. If he's on your team, you would beg him to have ball in his hands, because once that happens, good things happen along. A lots of people say that Yao can't run, I absolutely disagree. Look at him playing against Suns and Mavs, then tell me he can't run. Yes, after a few EMPTY trips, he will look dead, it's the same for everyone. If he runs down with teammates, tries to fight for positions, and someone just launches a quick shot with a long rebound, then he has to rush back to defensive end. Not only that, he also has to chase opponents' quick guards. He can run, but his energy is limited, you have to use that efficiently. A good PG can make that happen.

    On fast breaks, you don't need your center to run back and forth all the time. Without the duty to handle the ball, just imagine how much energy Tmac could save. Two top BBall heads put together, I would say that TMac will get 3,4 allayups each game easily, and Yao is going to get a lot more nice entry passes, or easy dunks from Kidd's dishes.

    Do you want him and need him, of course! But can we afford him, NO. Is his knee a problem, not at all. Is Ward healthy? Is Sura healthy? Hell no, but why we don't mind? Coz they bring other intangibles? Hell no, just because they are cheap, we can afford them. If Kidd's contract is smaller, much smaller, who would mind this and that issue? He's the top PG with great defensive plays, what else do you want? He can only run a fast offense? Come on, if that's true, he wouldn't be the top PG in the past few years. He can fit to any system, and make any player better.

    You can always say this and that about a mansion at the beach, but who are we kidding, who wouldn't want it if it's cheap? The problem is, that most of us can't afford.

    Nothing really needs to be analysed in Jason's case, Clutch is on top of it: we can't afford. Money is the ONLY issue!
     
  15. YallMean

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    I think we should go after Kidd with Les's money.
     
  16. liujun0768

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    ill say no to kidd,he is too expensive and too old!:(
     
  17. I am a Donut

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    If he really, really wants to try and win with us, maybe he would take a significant pay cut. Is that even allowable? And is allowable even a word?
     
  18. RocketForever

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    I have asked this question before in another thread. I think some posters have replied that it is not allowable. :( If that's the case, I also don't think it's a good idea to give Kidd a max contract considering his age and injury.
     
  19. m_cable

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    Well money AND his knee are the issues. If it wasn't for this mircrofracture surgury, I'd say go for it. But as is, it's just too much of a risk.
     
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    I want to do it.

    Why? Because if we managed to land Kidd and SAR or Marshall, we'd perhaps be the "real" favorites for the title next year. We'd have (a) a top 3 PG, (b) a top two swingman, (c) a top 3 C, and (4) a top 20 PF.

    We'd be incredible. And even better, it wouldn't just be a mishmash of talent. Kidd is *the* consumate PG. We've already seen that McGrady and Yao are compatible. Neither SAR or Marshall are going to demand the ball constantly.

    We'd be that good. For 2-3 years...I'd give us a very good shot at the title. Then, yes...Kidd might decline. But I think it would be worth it for the uber-team that we'd ahve.
     

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