Is Mo Taylor consider to have great potential Potential worth waiting for How long before you say . . . .I give up [not picking on mo . . but he is a good player but i EXPECT more!!!] I mean . .. folx still looking at Vin Baker as a POTENTIAL type guy . . . how long do you give a guy . . with that Sexy P u like so much Cause some folx ready to give up on Griff but still willing to work with Mo T Rocket River
Most of the time you have to wait until a guy retires (or his contract expires and he's never resigned), you look at him and determine if he ever lived up to his potential. On the other hand, take Kevin Garnett. He was the first high schooler of this era to skip college because he had "NBA potential". Clearly he's living up to those expextations. After a couple of years in the league, people said he had the potential to be one of the best ever. He's well on his way to that, but if the Pup's keep dropping out of the playoffs in the first round, or if they never make it again with Garnett, will he be considered one of the best ever? Did he live up to his potential? I don't know if I answered the original question. The faster you meet the expectations people heap on you, the more expectations are piled on, so maybe it goes back to my first point. You don't know until their career is over. j
i seriously forgot about moT... with all the trade talk going on in garm. the dude is as good as he's going to get. which isn't that bad. the baby hook from feet out is nice. can't rebound worth a darn, can't block worth a darn... you get the point. griffin? his 2pt fg attempts versus 3pt fg attempts is pretty much the same from when he was in college (don't ask for stats... i posted them a while back and they were kinda hard to find), so basically he's done nothing to change his game to an nba level. like i said before griffin does have potential, but that potential has the potential to potentially suck. i hate potential. by the time their potential rolls around francis and mobley will be on the tail end of their careers. sigh. i say get rid of them both. you don't pay moT that amount of money for the potential that he had and his output on the court now. you sure as hell don't pay griffin darn thing based off of his potential when his contract is up.
I think if a guy is playing good minutes, within 3-4 yrs , you pretty muc know what the guy can and can't do. If the guy is a high schooler, you have to givehim about 5yrs. Its amazing that people still think Cato has potential and he's been in the league since 97 like Taylor. I've yet to see a guy all of a sudden get good after 25 or 26 yrs old. If it walk like a duck,quack like a duck nd swim like a duck, its a duck.
While they didn't just get good after 25, Dream, Malone and David Robinson were only potential MVP candicates until they were in their early 30's when they finally won the honor. Cato never had that potential, he was only expected to be a decent starter eventually. He's still got time to do that, only not with the Rockets. j
Normally, when the players rookie contract are up (3 years)... you should have a good idea about their potential (If they also play enough minutes in game situation)... So, it's almost time to assess Brown, Chandler, Curry et al... that bunch of guys next season & see what they got...
All those guys were al stars by the time they were 25. The thing about being mvp quality, if Duncan had put up this type of season in the mid to late 80's early 90's, he would be just another all star and no where near the mvp ballot. The same yr mailman avg 31pts a game, Jordan avg like 35 8 and 8. That same season Hakeem avg like 23-14-4-2stl and wasn't even in the running. Dream was good before 25 and was just climbing the ladder just like Robinson,Malone and Jordan. J' Oneal was good before his 25th birthday as well as Kobe,McGrady,Pierce and others. I just don't ever recall a guy getting good aftre his 25th or 26th birthday. I don't see Taylor or Cato doing it either.
No one suddenly becomes all star caliber after stinking it up on the bench for the past five years but with a little hard work they can become pretty serviceable players in this league. Afterall, the year before Taylor came here he averaged 18 points a game I believe. This is where his "potential" came from.
My response is to your comment in a post asking why people still think Cato and Taylor have potential. I don't think anyone expects them to be all-stars, but they do have the potential to be solid starters. If that doesn't happen until their early 30's, I think they will still have lived up to their potential. j
I just have a good feeling about this year and what JVG might add to this team. An individual can be loaded with talent and potential, but without the right instruction it normally ends up worthless. JVG and his staff seem to be far more disciplinarians and instuctors than the Rudy bunch. If the talent is truly there, then I think JVG will find a way to tap into it. My theory is that there is no reason I can think of that an offensively minded player shouldn't be able to play good defense. MoT has good handles and can drain the ball. There's no reason he shouldn't be able to defend well. He just needs instruction and motivation. If that doesn't work, then he needs a one-way ticket out of town.
Did Mo Taylor ever have potential? His just a fat, unathletic PF with a couple of spiffy moves. It is sad that he can't grab 7 boards a game.
It lasts... until a player retires, because there's always hope of late career improvement . You just can't design a team around it past a certain point, which is what RR was getting at, I think. IMO, I think it's time to stop banking on a player improving past 25, unless there's a good reason to think he will. Not to say that you shouldn't expect a 25 year old to get better... just that one shouldn't expect drastic changes in value after that point. They'll happen, but you can't count on it.
