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Possible Better Way To Apply The Technical Foul Rule?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Felece, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. Felece

    Felece Member

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    As you all know this No-Emotion rule about Techinical Fouls is getting really

    out of hand, and it even becomes frustrating for the fans watching it, mainly

    due to the "Free-Throw" could possibly change the outcome of the game.

    While I dont mind the rule taking out the crybabies who complain after every

    Non-foul(Kobe) the free-throw is definitely hurting the fans after some

    questionable T's getting thrown up.



    My new proposed Solution is making the Techinical Foul not become a

    free-throw for the other team, instead, just a $50000 fine (Is that how much

    players get fined at the moment for a T?) and still keep in the rule that

    Ejection after 2 T's. That way, if a T is given, it does not affect the outcome

    of the game and players will be less likey to complain after a call since a T

    will cost them some money. That way, The refs can still throw T's up all they

    want but it has no effect on the Gameplay(Unless 2T's and Ejection).

    Fans would be likey to complain less as the T does not affect gameplay and

    it is not their money that pays the fines.
     
  2. WhoMikeJames

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    Try $500, not $50,000.
     
  3. TheRealist137

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    Most NBA players wipe their *** with $500.
     
  4. Felece

    Felece Member

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    Well , You get my picture.

    Fine them enough so that they think about it before complaining/Doing other

    things to get a technical, because Bad Technicals having a effect on the Game

    is what really pisses me off. Like if your on a scoring run a bad technical and

    Free-throw can really throw your team off.
     
  5. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    I like JVG's suggestion. If a player gets a technical, then just award the other team 1 point. There really is no purpose in technical free throws. It slows the game down unnecessarily.

    Players will be more careful if they realize that its an automatic point rather than a free throw. And it will speed the game up.
     
  6. gotsis

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    basketball as any sport is a emotional sport, in all other sports players are allowed to complain, this new rule is ridiculous, the way it was, was perfectly fine.

    Ive never seen a league make the refs such stars of the game.
     
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  8. durvasa

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    You don't see this complaining in college. So why do players feel they need to speak up when they enter the NBA?
     
  9. DOMINATOR

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    because they see kobe, lebron, paul... any teams best player do it every time. stop giving star treatment and the complaining will stop.
     
  10. napalm06

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    The problem is that the rule is not doing what it was meant to do - discourage crybabies. Go back and check out the LA game - count how many times Gasol cries (it may be in the hundreds) - yet Martin gets T'd up for swinging his arm away from the ref and cringing.

    Yup, safe to say that's more than a little frustrating... oh yeah, and how many points did we lose by? :eek:
     
  11. napalm06

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    And this is one of the main reasons I struggle with basketball.

    In the NHL, a guy goes to the box and his team can still make up the difference. In football, you lose yards but the team still has a chance to overcome anything the refs throw at them.

    In the NBA, the refs essentially alter the score as much as they please. It hurts..
     
  12. Shroopy2

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    I don't disagree with the automatic point. Though just imagine the outcry of a referee automatically putting up points for a team and the other team loses by a point. Kevin Martin getting T'd up cuz he doesnt like the bias against him while he's guarding Kobe. Road teams in hostile environment might be behind -2 points as soon as the step off the bus. Keep the technical foul shot, so on a miss we can still hear some "Ball Don't Lie!" chants.

    I say give starters 7 fouls. Everyone else 6 fouls. (Yeah Yao would get 7 fouls for 24 minutes, but thats my rule). Player's have extra hostility on foul calls not just from it benefiting the other team, its from too many fouls will get them REMOVED from the game ENTIRELY. They're trying to protect their lifeline. The league WANTS more ticky tack fouls called to open up the offense. And then acts surprised that players would get more upset when they get those ticky tack fouls called on them, with the league limiting their defensive effect. In other sports the players remain in the game. In the NBA calling more fouls means less TIME on the court for the players. Damn RIGHT they SHOULD be pissed.

    The automatic point should get looked into to though. (I think the jump ball is more needless than the technical foul shot. Just go with possession arrows, 6 foot guys jumping with 7 footers with a ref throwing up a sloppy pass just tacky really. )
     
  13. Felece

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    I actually disagree with the Free-Throw. Now that the Tech is called so

    frequently, it just affects the game too much, every game there is 1 or 2

    technical free-throws for a little bit of emotion shown(which is natural if you

    get hacked and refs miss it, it should be allowed as long as they dont overdo

    it) but the problem is these techs puts the other team up by 1 point, and if

    multiple techs get called on a team at some point ie: 3 Techs resulting in 3

    points for the opposition, and your team loses by 2 points in the end. It

    really sucks. Past years the techs were fine because they were rarely called

    (exept Sheed), since not alot of people overcomplain, but now you complain

    the slightest, or make a gestrue , or even smile at the ref (there was a

    Player smiling while giving the ball back to the ref after a foul was called on

    him, and he got T'd up).
     
  14. flamingdts

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    How about we just abandon the whole stupid rule?

    Or we could have a "warning" instead of a technical. If a player gets two of these warnings, it becomes a technical foul and a freethrow for the other team.

    We need to give the players more room to breathe. They're humans, they overreact. I don't think we should change the potential outcome of the game because of a sudden overreaction.
     
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    They might as well explicitly write into the rule that it will not be called against the Lakers. The amount of complaining that Gasol got away with in the game against us was ridiculous, yet Martin gets called for a T when he's on the opposite end of the court from the ref running away from him.
     
  16. JuanValdez

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    Fines won't work because players will be willing to pay a fee for the opportunity to alter ref behavior and the outcome of the game. And, unless you make it a percentage of their salaries, it will end up deterring low-paid players a lot more than the high-paid ones (who are usually the biggest complainers anyway).

    How about, instead of technicals, the complaining player has to stand spread-eagle with his hands against a wall and all the players of the opposing team get to throw basketballs at him? It would slow play down a lot, but would still be entertaining -- a little game-within-the-game -- and would probably be very effective at cutting out the whining.

    I think that's how it works right now -- first a warning, and then the Ts come when you re-offend.
     
  17. Pieman2005

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    Did you see the tech Martin got in game 1?
     
  18. k-money

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    well, just think how pissed everyone would be if there team lost by 1 because someone got a T.
     
  19. durvasa

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    Yeah, but I don't remember it.
     
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    It will eventually. There will be an adjustment period where there are a ton of infractions to start, then everyone will eventually learn and it will taper off. Some of the slower learners will have to discover it for themselves first-hand, a few times. I'm all for just giving the T & awarding the point to speed things up.

    Now do it with flopping, start calling travelling & jumping into your defender for the foul, & you're on your way nba.
     

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