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Posey would have been the perfect complement to TMac

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pcheung, Jun 19, 2004.

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  1. pcheung

    pcheung Member

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    I'll be the first to admit it - I didn't think Posey was worth the contract he signed for last year. When the Rockets didn't match Memphis' offer, I said, "C'est la vie." But if this TMac trade goes down, the perfect 2/3 complement slipped right out of our hands.

    Let's not even count Posey's stellar play in Memphis.
    Just think about every recent NBA champion, a defensive-minded player with length is a part of the formula: Tayshaun Prince, Bowen (who's available), Fox/Horry, etc.

    Think TMac + Posey at the 2/3 position. Posey burning energy at the defensive end on the opposition's primary scorer and running out on the break. TMac free to roam on D (He'd be 1st team All-Defense, when he has energy, his help D is that good) and focus on O.

    Two 6'8", long-armed predators on the wing revolving around Yao Ming in the paint. I just drooled a little. :p
     
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  2. pcheung

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    I know - coulda, woulda, shoulda - but I think it's interesting to think about...

    I suppose we should 1) Get TMac :) and then 2) Talk about who IS available.

    To start on 2) - how about Bruce Bowen?
     
    #2 pcheung, Jun 19, 2004
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    I'm happy with JJ. He's a solid defensive player, and knocks down the open shot most of the time. He brings more in the locker room/experience, and is a very consistent player (Posey can be very erratic).

    Offensively, I think Jackson's a great fit next to TMac. Teams sometimes put their 3 on TMac to give him a more physical matchup and take away his post game. Jackson is a very physical perimeter who can abuse opposing 2 guards in the post if teams try to employ that strategy.
     
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  4. pcheung

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    I like JJ. But I think he's transitioning to role player mode in his mid-30's. (Also, his cover shot the 3-ball with shockingly little fear near the end of the season).

    A pair of 6'8", tough to shoot over ball-hawks in their mid-20's together with a young Yao in the paint just sounds like three shoe-in pieces to a potential dynasty to me.
     
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  5. H-Town Info

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    but jj will have some problems against 2 guards who r more athletic than jj. i really do like jj, he brings good influence to his team and experience. as of right now, he has a found a home in houston instead of bouncing around team after team every year. i just dont him to becoming like payton against shooting guards (getting an extra step against him). he is decent compliment to t-mac.
     
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  6. pcheung

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    Like what H-town is saying. JJ is not your flexible, all-purpose swingman stopper. Not saying Posey stops everyone, but he would totally fill that role next to TMacand relieve the one-on-one defensive burden. Think what T. Prince did for Rip Hamilton. What Pippen did for Jordan (who made hay roaming free on D). Again, not saying Posey is at that level, but he clearly would take the other team's #1 scorer every night and that means an awful lot.

    Even offensively, Posey fits that Prince/Pippen mold. Strong on the break, likes to take it to the rim, decent, but far from good outside shooter.
     
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    Oh yeah and Eddie coulda been something if he was clean. :rolleyes:
     
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  8. pcheung

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    Well... Eddie... forget it, I'm not defending him. :)

    That situation wasn't a choice we had to make.

    I understand the :rolleyes:, it's a hypothetical situation now, but there is a reason "primary wing defender" was near the top of TMac's wish list to the Magic.

    I think his 25 y/o bad back snuck that one on the list.
     
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  9. NIKEstrad

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    Who said anything about JJ guarding 2s? How many 2s did JJ guard this year? It's about the 2s who may end up guarding him, whom he consistently torched in the post this year. We just didn't see it done often, since Mobley's only 6-4.

    There's a huge difference between McGrady and Hamilton. Hamilton is thin, never really had a commitment to defense until this year, and is about 6-7 with somewhat short arms. McGrady is 6-8 with very long arms, and could be considered svelte compared to Hamilton. Prince guarded the #1 option out of necessity. Further, I don't see a chance in hell that JVG lets someone take an easier assignment on defense, star player or not. Consider the tools TMac has- you're not going to find many players more capable of locking someone up on the perimeter than TMac. McGrady has blocked nearly 2 shots a games as an SG off the bench!Kobe's pulled off being a stud scorer/defender, no reason McGrady can't. I don't see Rick Fox being anything Jim Jackson can't be.

    Besides the fact, Poseys and Princes can always be had. Posey was drafted 18th overall; We picked up Posey for Kenny Thomas. Memphis picked him up for the MCE. Prince was drafted 23rd overall in what was considered a very weak draft.
     
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    I have no reason to suggest Jerry West has any reason to move Posey, but I was thinking.....

    Posey's salary is in the 5.4 million range. Would it be possible to send Memphis the trade exception for him? I know Posey played well and West has already said he has no intention of moving him......but it couldn't help in courting Kobe.
     
    #10 baller4life315, Jun 20, 2004
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    Yeah, Posey would be a lot more ideal on a team with T-Mac. I'd kill for a Tayshawn Prince or a young Robert Horry. Jim Jackson did a great job for us last year but I really think we need a much taller 3 to make dumping the ball in to Yao easier. Jim Jackson would be an unbelievable sixth man backing the 3 and 2.

    Bruce Bowen would be nice too but I don't know how likely that is.
     
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    Can we cut this crap already and just move on. Jeeeeez.

    Yeah Rashad Lewis, Tayshawn Prince, Kenny Thomas, Sam Cassel, Horry would all be perfect compliment to The Mac as well :eek:
     
    #12 Fegwu, Jun 20, 2004
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    I'll Take Jim Jackson Over Bowen anyday of the week!
     
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  14. parlaynhustle

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    i just saw posey yesterday at houston's restaurant....he took a picture with my girl even tho he was on the phone....seems like a cool person...i wish we still had him too
     
    #14 parlaynhustle, Jun 20, 2004
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