two separate polls. http://www.nypost.com/seven/0308200...ews_ian_bishop_________post_correspondent.htm [rquoter] RUDY HAS HILL'S NUMBER By IAN BISHOP Post Correspondent March 8, 2007 -- WASHINGTON - A new poll shows Rudy Giuliani taking two of the three crucial swing states of Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio from Hillary Rodham Clinton by winning over independents and nearly breaking even with her bread and butter - female voters. In the head-to-head showdown, Giuliani thumps Clinton by 11 points in Pennsylvania and bests her by 5 in Florida - while the former first lady edges America's Mayor by one point in the Buckeye State. Giuliani crushes Clinton nemesis Barack Obama in all three states, racking up 12-point leads in Florida and Pennsylvania and a 4-point cushion in Ohio. The Quinnipiac University poll found an eye-popping 51 percent of Pennsylvania voters back Giuliani - including 20 percent of Keystone State Democrats - over Clinton, who pulled in 40 percent support. Clinton eked out only a 1-point edge with women. The poll's assistant director, Peter Brown, said Pennsylvanians are keenly interested in homeland security - the fourth plane involved in the 9/11 attacks crashed in the state - and hold Giuliani in high regard. Giuliani, who has the highest favorability of any 2008 candidate, got his biggest thumbs-up from Pennsylvanians, at 61 percent. Clinton has the second-highest favorability ratings, receiving just under 50 percent. But her negatives, soaring as high as 45 percent in Pennsylvania, are the highest of any White House contender. In Florida, Giuliani leads Clinton 47-42 percent, aided by a 50 percent backing from independents. Clinton leads among women, 45-41 percent, but trails by 15 points among men. Ohioans narrowly prefer Clinton - 44-43 percent - due in large part to her sizable 9-point advantage among women and 31 percent support among Evangelicals. The Quinnipiac poll showing Giuliani cutting into Clinton's female base of support comes a day after her campaign launched an online effort to recruit women into her camp and enlisted big names like Geraldine Ferraro, Madeleine Albright and Billie Jean King to champion her cause. But female Democratic primary voters are propelling Clinton to substantial leads over Obama in the swing states surveyed: 25 points in Florida (31 among women), 13 in Ohio (20 among women) and 11 in Pennsylvania (17 among women). "We're gratified that the polls are so encouraging, but we're taking nothing for granted and will work hard for every vote," Clinton spokesman Blake Zeff said. On the Republican side, Giuliani has a double-digit lead over chief rival John McCain in all three states - 20 points in Florida, 17 in Ohio and 26 in Pennsylvania. Giuliani holds a 55-34 percent lead over McCain in a national Wall Street Journal/NBC poll. Clinton leads Obama 47-39 percent. Giuliani also leads McCain 37-27 percent among New Hampshire primary voters, according to a Suffolk University poll. Clinton holds a 28-26 percent lead over Obama. [/rquoter] and amongst republicans: http://online.wsj.com/public/articl...ZheNpf9m8ywFCq7WK46MQNzxGQA_20080306.html?mod [rquoter]McCain Is Forced To Play Catch-Up As Support Ebbs Poll Reflects Concerns About Age, War Stance; A Giuliani Boomlet By JOHN HARWOOD March 8, 2007; Page A1 WASHINGTON -- Some 10 months before Republican voters begin to select the party's presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain is facing unexpectedly formidable challenges despite courting the party faithful during his seven-year wait on deck for a shot at the White House. A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll1 shows the Arizona senator trailing Rudy Giuliani by more than 20 percentage points -- and encountering doubts in the party about his age and steadfast support for the Iraq war. Mr. McCain's support "is softening," says Democratic pollster Peter Hart, who conducted the Journal/NBC survey with Republican counterpart Neil Newhouse. Republican voters "are window shopping," Mr. Newhouse adds, and at this stage finding reasons to look past the familiar Mr. McCain toward the inspiring post-9/11 profile of the former New York City mayor. All told, 2008 is shaping up as the worst presidential year in three decades to be the candidate of the Republican establishment, the spot some in the party think Mr. McCain has assumed. The senator's top political strategist, John Weaver, calls himself "quite serene" about the campaign's predicament, reflecting the McCain team's judgment that the Giuliani boomlet will fade. The Journal/NBC poll itself suggests that may well happen, as voters learn more about the New Yorker. But the "strong leader" wave Mr. Giuliani has ridden since the 2001 terrorist attacks has increased the pressure Mr. McCain faces from supporters and campaign donors to make that happen sooner -- and it has already accelerated a McCain campaign timetable that once anticipated a more leisurely early pace. In advance of an earlier-than-expected formal campaign announcement in April, McCain aides vow a faster-paced travel schedule that gets the senator out of Washington and connecting with voters. He will embark on bus tours of Iowa and New Hampshire -- home to the earliest primary contests -- next week. The McCain team argues that national polls overstate Mr. Giuliani's power in the race, not only because the New Yorker's social views are out of step with Republican conservatives but because Mr. McCain is stronger in key early-primary states. Yet they insist they won't soon joust with Mr. Giuliani in an attempt to blunt his momentum; instead, they aim to protect Mr. McCain's reputation for positive campaigning while hoping the media and lagging Republican candidates -- former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback -- feel greater urgency to scrutinize Mr. Giuliani's record and stances on hot-button issues. It is far different terrain than McCain advisers expected as they set out methodically in recent years to build a front-runner's fortress of establishment endorsements, financial strength and organizational infrastructure in critical states. In a party that has traditionally respected hierarchy, the runner-up in the 2000 Republican primaries was pursuing the same strategy that worked for George W. Bush that year, Bob Dole in 1996, Vice President George H.W. Bush in 1988 and Ronald Reagan in 1980. President Gerald Ford's near-loss in the 1976 primaries to Mr. Reagan was rare for a Republican front-runner. Yet Mr. McCain has seen Mr. Giuliani race past him earlier than any of those Republicans faced serious challenge. In a two-way matchup of the best-known Republican contenders, Mr. Giuliani leads 55% to 34%; when also-ran candidates are included, Mr. Giuliani's lead is 38%-24%, more than double his margin from a December 2006 Journal/NBC poll. The telephone survey of 1,007 adults, conducted March 2-5, carries a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points. The poll shows Mr. McCain's problems are partly personal, and partly the result of the Iraq war's shadow over the broader political environment. After years in which his maverick stance on issues from taxes to campaign finance grated on the party faithful, one in five Republicans express negative views of Mr. McCain and a similar proportion vow not to vote for him. That is double the negative views about Mr. Giuliani. Some 30% of Americans overall, and 22% of Republicans, express reservations about the fact that Mr. McCain, now 70 years old, would be the oldest president elected to a first term. More ominously, 72% of Americans and 50% of Republicans express discomfort with his support for sending more U.S. troops to Iraq. Nor is Mr. McCain helped by general voter unhappiness with Republican leaders in Washington. President Bush, with whom the Arizonan has worked to repair relations after their bitter 2000 contest, remains bogged down with a job-approval rating of just 35%. The poll shows Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton is also facing a stiffer early challenge than her advisers anticipated. Among Democrats, the New York senator's lead over Sen. Barack Obama now stands at 40%-28%, down from 37%-18% in December. In a two-way matchup, Mrs. Clinton leads her Illinois colleague by a narrower 47%-39%. Echoing Mr. McCain's situation, 16% of Democrats say they definitely wouldn't vote for Mrs. Clinton, twice the number who say that of Mr. Obama. And while seven in 10 Democrats embrace Mr. Obama's call to withdraw troops from Iraq, about half express discomfort with Mrs. Clinton's refusal to call her vote to authorize the war a mistake. Mr. Hart, the Democratic pollster, notes that Mr. Obama's recent entry on the national stage leaves his support vulnerable to shifting political winds. But with 80% of Americans now recognizing Mr. Obama's name, Mr. Newhouse adds, the survey shows "he is a real, credible, serious threat to Hillary." Mrs. Clinton's challenge pales in comparison to Mr. McCain's. He has seen his main rival -- a backer of abortion rights in a socially conservative party -- seize the front-runner mantle, which can itself be a self-fulfilling source of momentum. Mr. Giuliani's campaign so far, Mr. Hart observes, resembles "a hydroplane skimming over the surface" of intraparty ideological rifts. He boasts more-favorable ratings than Mr. McCain across the political spectrum, and leads among conservative Republicans by 57% to 31%. McCain advisers insist the Journal/NBC poll's national findings distort the actual state of competition. They cite McCain leads in the polls in the critical battlegrounds of New Hampshire and South Carolina, and a stronger organization in Iowa. The campaign routinely rolls out fresh endorsements; yesterday, seven state attorneys general publicly backed Mr. McCain's candidacy. But Mr. McCain now faces heightened pressure to reassert his financial preeminence when first-quarter contribution reports are filed with the Federal Election Commission next month. McCain strategists expect him to lead both Messrs. Giuliani and Romney, but within his camp there is also speculation that Mr. Giuliani's rise has impeded the senator's early fund-raising haul. "They need to rebrand McCain," one adviser said yesterday, harking back to the independent streak the Arizonan displayed with his 2000 "Straight Talk Express." Around the time of his formal announcement next month, Mr. McCain is expected to offer a renewed emphasis on spending restraint and other domestic issues that could help reduce the unremitting focus on the unpopular Iraq war. To be sure, the poll shows Mr. Giuliani is vulnerable when that happens. Fully three of four Republicans -- including a majority of those backing the former New York City mayor -- say they would have reservations if they learned Mr. Giuliani supports abortion rights and supports civil unions for gay and lesbian couples. One in five Republicans expresses discomfort with the fact Mr. Giuliani has been married three times. At the same time, Mr. Giuliani's camp is counting on his strong security profile as "America's Mayor" after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks -- and that a restless public will seek change from outside Washington. The latest encouraging sign for that view: the criminal conviction this week of former vice presidential aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby in the CIA leak case.[/rquoter]
So my liberal is better than your liberal is what you are saying? Liberals are only bad if they are not in my party LOL. Oh I like Rudy personally and would not have any problems voting for him.
I don't think anyone could dispute that Rudy is the best LEADER out of any of the candidates. He proved himself under the most difficult circumstances and was brilliant. The libs? Hillary - A radical leftist with no history of leadership, only failure Obama - Way to inexperienced to even be in the race -- a media creation John Edwards - A trial lawyer who is too weak to lead. Very feminine
The fire fighters and the police did the good job. They were the heros. Rudy just looked good on TV. But hey! If you want to tie yourself to 911 to try and win an election. Go right ahead.
This article from The Onion is somewhat sick, but does make the point... _____________ Giuliani To Run For President Of 9/11 February 21, 2007 | Issue 43•08 http://www.theonion.com/content/node/58750/print/ NEW YORK—At a well-attended rally in front of his new Ground Zero headquarters Monday, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani officially announced his plan to run for president of 9/11. "My fellow citizens of 9/11, today I will make you a promise," said Giuliani during his 18-minute announcement speech in front of a charred and torn American flag. "As president of 9/11, I will usher in a bold new 9/11 for all." Giuliani If elected, Giuliani would inherit the duties of current 9/11 President George W. Bush, including making grim facial expressions, seeing the world's conflicts in terms of good and evil, and carrying a bullhorn at all state functions. "Let us all remember how we felt on that day, with the world watching our every move, waiting on our every word," said Giuliani, flanked by several firefighters, ex-New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik, and Judith Nathan, his third wife. "With a campaign built on traditional 9/11 values, and with the help of every citizen who believes in the 9/11 dream, I want to make 9/11 great again." According to Washington–based political analyst Gregory Hammond, Giuliani's candidacy "should not be underestimated." "Sure, he has no foreign or national policy experience, and both his personal life and political career are riddled with scandal," said Hammond. "But in the key area of having been on TV on 9/11, the other candidates simply cannot match him. And as we saw in 2004, that's what matters most to voters in this post-9/11 world." After his downtown Manhattan announcement, Giuliani held an afternoon rally near the Pentagon. In the early evening, he flew to a field outside Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where he hosted a $5,000-a-plate fundraising dinner in a tent decorated with clouds of ash, streaming sheets of singed office paper, and small piles of authentic rubble from the World Trade Center site. Among the policy planks listed on his website are his Cleaner Air Act, which would severely limit the levels of smoke and harmful gases allowed to pour from 747s flying into 110-story office buildings, guaranteed health insurance covering burns caused by shards of burning metal, and his "No Child Left Behind In A Smoldering Skyscraper" initiative. Giuliani supporters praised the candidate for his "early and unwavering commitment" to 9/11. "People talk about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, but did either of them happen to be mayor of New York in September 2001?" Bedford, NH resident Helen Rolfe said. "Guiliani was. To me, that speaks volumes about this man." Though his campaign apparatus is not yet fully operational, Giuliani's "mobile campaign units"—refurbished fire trucks decorated with banners, balloons, and bloodstains, whose droning sirens continuously blare Giuliani's official campaign song—have already begun canvassing towns in Iowa and New Hampshire. Giuliani's pro-9/11 message seems to be resonating with potential voters. Said Ames, IA voter Alan Benoit: "I remember seeing Rudolph Giuliani's face, on television, saying reassuring things during a highly emotional moment filled with fear and confusion. He's got my vote." With more than a year until the primaries—unless Giuliani's court-filed request to hold New York's primary on the second Tuesday in September is approved—Giuliani said it is too early to discuss potential running mates, though he refused to rule out the possibility of naming a twisted, half-melted aluminum beam, an FDNY ball cap, or even John McCain. Giuliani, however, called rumors that he had met with a large shard of glass from the wreckage of the Pentagon "patently untrue." "Letting 9/11 fall into the hands of the Democrats in 2008 would be nothing short of a national tragedy," Giuliani said. "Ever since 9/11 was founded that fateful day on 9/11, 9/11 has stood for one thing: 9/11."
well you certainly are the authority when it comes to all things manly and masculine, arent you tradertexx? you support a president who planted a gay male hooker in the white house press corp and had said gay male hooker make dozens and dozens of trips to the white house...that bush is a real MANS MAN! http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/secret_service_gannon_424.htm and is it manly to want to pay money to watch people get urineboarded, because to me it seems kind of gay?
im sure there is no pun intended when you say "hard" cola. for some reason i picture tradertexx drinking zima's while he watches his urineboarding videos. mmm...zima
The Onion article nailed it. He's only known for 9/11 - during which he actually did very little. If he is the "new" face of conservatives in this country, I cannot think of a more perfect match. Guiliani is the walking embodiment of hypocrisy and grandstanding.
