My source tells me the Rockets are considering to do a trade up very similar to francis trade. Basically, its Kenny + Drew + TMass + det 1st or orl first for a top 3 pick. Would you do this trade or not? [This message has been edited by rocketsfan34 (edited February 22, 2000).]
Depends on who declares for the draft... However, having two lottery picks would be nice in a year where our biggest need (forward positions) is stacked.
Drew and Kenny i can deal with,TMass also, a first rounder..... that is pretty close. All in all yes I would probably do it for a top 3 pick- no farther than top 5. ------------------ We would like to get rookie Francis on the break for some easy scoops in the first quarter...
Actually, now that I think of it, yes, I would make that deal. Kenny Thomas would be tough to lose, but so was Othella. Drew is nowhere near as bad a loss as Dickerson was. The draft picks mean nothing. Also, you clear roughly $4mill off your cap (sign a free agent before you sign the draft picks).
Nope. I don't do that trade. Drew and Kenny are too much to give for that pick. But, how the heck do you know who has the third pick. The lottery decides that. But, even if you had some sort of guarantee of the third pick, you don't trade two quality players the sort of kenny and Drew plus a 14th pick for a top three pick. Maybe a number one pick, but even then its tough. As it is now, Kenny thomas would be taken between the 5 and 10 pick for this years draft. Drew is doing good himself and would be a player selected about 10th. Then the Detroit pick is also a 14th pick as of now. But, Kenny is playing awsome. So, I don't do the trade. Not now at least.
We aren't exactly ripping off the other team here...they get solid players with good cheap contracts. Deal makes sense. Note: This deal will not take place until we know the draft order and the underclassmen declares. [This message has been edited by rocketsfan34 (edited February 22, 2000).]
I would rather use Williams or Rogers (or both), rather than Kenny. He is our legitimate 4 next year (not Rogers because he is injury-prone). If we drafted that high, it should be for a 3. But what team would bite on this deal (even with Thomas)?
I could sacrifice all of em except for Kenny! I think Kenny was the real sleeper in this draft! The Rockets got themselves a steal when they drafted him! I mean heck he can play inside, *All he has gotta do is go and BULK up* and shoots well from the outside! *At least he can make his 3's unlike our favorite guy Barkley could* But Thomas has alot of potential! Give him some time! I mean a lineup with Cato, Thomas, Anderson, Mobley, and Franchise would be an awesome lineup! But they are young! So give em time! ------------------ Set your mind to it, you can achieve anything!
You who want this trade!!! Yes you!!! Who do you want to take with the top 3 pick? Who's the missing ingredient for you! Who can be Francis' right hand man!!!! Who do you want in the Draft.....? Morris, the Cincinati dude, Who?
Txcowboy I like your line up. Give this team a chance to win. Cato, Thomas, Anderson, Mobley, and Francis are the guys to build around. Then we will likely get the 6th to 10th pick in this years draft. Plus the Detroit pick which stands at about 14th righ now. Everyone could be traded or not resigned after the contract is done. That means Hakeem, Drew, Bullard, Massenburg, Rogers, Norris, Barkley, and all the rest I can't remember their names.
Kenny + Drew + TMass + det 1st or orl first for a top 3 pick sh*T if you could keep Drew and Kenny and add walt [His salary is more than theirs combine] BUT No. Who is the #3 in the Draft? If you say Kenyon . . I prefer to have him with KT as back up [1-2 Punch] no one stands out for me now. I guess March Madness will separate the Ballas from the Fallas Rocket River
If we threw in Walt...we would probably would have to throw in our Lotto pick since no one really wants to take on his contract. I personally like Rogers more than Kenny, but that's purely opinion. This would be a perfect senerio to move and nab Dermarr Johnson. This guy is unreal. [This message has been edited by rocketsfan34 (edited February 22, 2000).]
You have to give something to get something. Kenny Thomas is not too much to give up for a lottery pick. If we made this deal, we would still have our own lottery pick as well, and would be adding a cornerstone player without losing Mobley. This is pretty much the same format as the Francis trade: Young Forward: Harrington/Thomas Young Guard: Dickerson/Drew Medium Range Draft Pick Veteran that Doesn't mean Much: Carr(Price)/Massenberg I would put Thomas slightly ahead of Othella Harrington, but Dickerson light years ahead of Drew. The picks and veterans don't mean anything and are a wash. This would be an absolute steal of a trade, and characteristic of Rudy Tomjanovich. It's not too far-fetched either. Drew and Thomas are two solid, young, proven players. They could do a nice job fitting in on a team that doesn't need anymore superstars. We on the other hand, by obtaining a Top-3 pick would have a shot at Mr. Martin. We would still have our own lottery pick (7-10) to round out the small forward slot. This would be a beauty of a trade. Or perhaps use the Top-3 pick on Dermarr Johnson (as RFAN34 just suggested) [since Martin will go #1] and select Stromile Swift with the other lottery pick. [This message has been edited by thacabbage (edited February 22, 2000).]
However, people don't forget this draft is basically good or bad depending on how many underclassmen come out. This trade would be worthless if no underclassmen came out. Best summed up by thacabbage: Depends on who declares for the draft...
I say it's a bad move. Kenny and Bryce make hardly any money to count against the cap, T-Mass is a free agent at years end. I say keep those guys and trade our 2 CONDITIONAL draft picks and trade Walt. If that doesn't work, then u trade Drew. I for one don't want to give up Thomas. If in fact we do get in the position to get Martin or D. Johnson and can do another trade to upgrade, then I'll consider trading Thomas.
No way would I do it.I think KT will be a big part of this team if he remains. Hell we might end up in the three spot without any help. There just doesn't seem to be any really great player's out there. Ok F3 there is KM but I expect he'll go #1. Morris I like but it seem's he might stay and Demarr ? isn't he a freshman ? Why does everyone think he will declare ? vince ,this may be a weak draft but no way would Drew go ten.
Depends on who you can get with that pick on Draft Day. It is ridiculous to say the Rockets are considering this deal for draft day, which is 4-5 months away .... 1001 variables from now until then, so we'll deal in theory. Drew has talent and isn't seeing time so he's expendable as far as I'm concerned, but Kenny is looking very good. He has started the past two games and played an average of 44 minutes per. 18 points and 8.5 boards. Granted it's two games but Kenny is showing serious talent. Othella was not this good as a rookie.
YOU HAVE TO DO IT! I agree that Kenny might turn out to be the sleeper of this draft, and I don't want to lose him, but look who we could get. As good as Rudy and Carol are at drafting, we'll probably get someone as good as Kenny with our lottery pick. But, hey, we could end up with another Francis or Odom type pick for rebuilding with this trade. If we could end up with a future starting 3 and 4 out of the deal, it would be another steal. We keep Francis, Mobley, Cato, Anderson, Rogers, and get one more star and another starter? You just have to do it.
Also depends on who has the top three picks. The Rockets were able to step up and get Francis because the situation went bad for the Griz. If the teams with the top picks see their man on the draft board and don't forsee a Francis or Kobe scenario, Houston won't get a deal done. Mango
This draft is talented on 3s and 4s. And say we get 2 picks that are good and early in the draft. HELL YEAH i do the deal. Can you imagine 2 great draft players added to this team. IT WOULD BE SCARY....
