ugh, this country is full of wusses!!! anytime anyone is offended by the slightest oral or physical action... it's lawsuit time baby! good GOD! uh oh, please don't sue me anyone!
"under god" and "in god we trust" (on our money) was added during the Communist Scare of the 50's... it should've never been added. This is a classic example of government entities imposing their religious views on the people of this "free" country... why should those who have a different belief system be forced to recite "under god" when they may or may not believe in god? it's all crazy.. and now with patriotism/nationalism/bushism at it's highest, it makes it difficult to change stuff like this. You could be deemed "unpatriotic" if you oppose... it will be a tough battle...
The Red Scare is returning .. but now it is the TURBIN SCARE or some other maddness Rocket River FIx THE D*MN ECONOMY . . .NOT THE F*CKING PLEDGE!!
you know, i agree with the aforementioned comments, but i despise the fact that i don't feel comfortable stating them aloud in a group of people.. why you ask? well, b/c i am dark skinned (Hindu) and thus if I WERE to say such things, people would think I am being unpatriotic and am a potential threat to their well being! it really sickens me that I have to watch my mouth since 9/11 and that i can't practice my right to free speech comfortably w/o looking over my shoulder b/c people may think i am a potential terrorist of some sort.
I think it's ridiculous! IMO, people need to quit getting so offended at everything all the time. While our country does have freedom of religion, many of the first settlers were very religious and some of our roots stem from this. Forcing people to say "under God" does not go against freedom of religion. The government cannot change a person's beliefs. I don't go to church and I don't really practice any religion. But I say the pledge and it does not offend me. I have my own God or Allah or creator (whatever name he may go by) and he may be different than yours. 'God' can mean to me what I want him to be and the government cannot take away my beliefs by forcing me to say "under God."
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights... U.S. Declaration of Independence Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth. In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names, Constitution of the United States of America If any bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a law, in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a law. Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution ============================================== I suppose the Constitution is now un-Constitutional?
As long as people aren't forced to say it or ridiculed for not, I have no problem with people reciting it.
But religion is about beliefs and the government can NOT force anyone to believe something or not. In all honesty, what's wrong with having to say it if you don't mean it?
What is really sad is we have gotten away from the point of what the Pledge of Alligence means. It has NOTHING to do with God. To say we need to take it out or leave it in is BS. When we said it back in grade school, we said it for our country, not for religious beliefs. People who despise our country want this. This is why we have lawlessness as school. Nobody feels a part of anything. Everybody does their own thing. People these days have no patriotism whatsoever. Just imagine if we had a real draft for a massive war ... what would happen? In 10 years when we aren't allowed to be patriotic? FORCING someone to say it is one thing ... but banning it is something totally different. This is an infringement of Freedom of Speech.
i don't recalling being "forced" to say it ... but from what I recall, nobody objected to it. It was one of the few things people did in unison.
Remember that "under God" was added to the pledge in the 1950s, during the height of McCarthyism. Perhaps they should have removed it after Eisenhower left office.
And upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the Constitution, upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God. Abraham Lincoln January 1, 1863 I guess the Emancipation Proclamation has to go also.
The Pledge had been around for a lot longer without the "under god" part, than it has with it. I could care less, I'm pledging allegience to the country, not to god. I wouldn't mind if it changed, but I highly doubt that will happen. Also, the pilgrims where religious, yes, but they fled England because it had a national religion that they didn't want to practice. So which example do we follow? Let's not forget that the founding fathers weren't exactly as religious as people make them out to be. Most of them hardly went to Church. Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declartion of Independence, he mentions God, but he was a very open athiest. It was common to mention God in documents. I forget where I read it, but people who try to paint our founding fathers as fundamentalists are wrong, they were very moderate christians and some only practiced it as a formality. I'm waiting for Anne Coulter to chime in on this, she's the b!tch that said we should invade all the muslim countries, who happen to have state endorsed religion, kill all their leaders, and convert all the people to christianity.
I think most kids say it because it is what happens every morning at school. Do you really think most kids pay attention to what they are actually saying? When something becomes memorized like that, it tends to lose meaning, or at least importance. It just becomes words. I remember a lot of kids joking around during pledge. Anyway, I don't see the point of it. I think it is silly that it is an everyday ritual where children have to stand up and give an oath to their country...especially when they are too young to really understand it anyway. So, I also think that this ruling is no big deal...or the Senate's reaction.
I don't know that it does. Several religions all believe in God. Others believe in Him but call Him something different. Others have several. I think 'under God' is just supposed to refer to a higher power, if there is one.
