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Please don't put the ball in steve's hand in last second of the game

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tigernet, Nov 16, 2003.

  1. tigernet

    tigernet Member

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    Please don't put the ball in steve's hand in last second of the game. He was not a good playmaker, and he will help you lose more games in the future.
     
  2. Jeff Gundy

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    I will STRONGLY consider your comments tigernet.

    Have a good week!
     
  3. nyquil82

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    please dont start anymore threads that belong on the GARM
     
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    How can a team play this much minutes (2OTs) and have only 11 team assists??? THat's just go to show you this team need a lot of work in that area. This team do not have enough passers and too much ballhoggers.
     
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    gosh, becasue of steve we didnt loose in regulation, and made to double ot.
     
  6. tigernet

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    The double OT play looked like the old rockets in the past 4 years, just put the ball in the hand of Steve and Cat, and let other three to have a test in the offensive side. Two shortest men in the court control 80% ball maker.. bad bad bad...from this point of view, JVG is not much better than rudy, at least in the offensive side.
     
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    omg, in cruch time its better just let the best player handle it. You see that with all the other teams, ex:Kobe, Mcgrady, AI.... Francis was just doing his job. Who cares if he took up 27 shots, Its one game.
     
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    At least Caturnover had 7 assists. 9-27 sucks bad- that is a game losing player. 5-14 sucks bad also - that is a game losing player too. Bad luck I guess...
     
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    Even Kings would let Webber do that hook shot wheather he make it or not and just forget Peja. That's your best bet...and Rockets should just trust Yao more wheather he does it or not.
     
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  11. Mr. Clutch

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    For the moment Steve and Cat are our best playmakers. We have to live with them taking the shots at the end of the game. It didn't look like a very good team out there, so let's hope Yao gets more aggressive.
     
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    Did you watch the game? Steve did not run the clock down, thus giving Torono more time. If Raptors only had 8 seconds remaining and even behind by 1, I am not sure Bosh can make the jumper.

    Citing ESPN: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=231116028

    In regulation, Bosh made a jumper over Yao, cutting Houston's
    lead to one with 32 seconds remaining. Francis followed with a
    19-foot jumper, giving Houston a three-point lead with 15 seconds left, but a double-teamed Vince Carter found Bosh, whose 3-pointer tied it at 83 with 7.2 remaining
     
  13. DonKnutts

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    Read your statement again. How asinine is that? I can't believe people are bashing Steve for making a clutch jumper with 17 seconds left. That is an incredibly pigheaded way to look at the game. And the fact that you're concoting hypothetical end-game scenarios only makes your comment more laughable.

    Steve's shots at the end of regulation and the 1st OT weren't the greatest of shots. But I've seen people like AI, Starbury, McGrady, Garnett, and Kobe take (and miss) similar shots in the closing seconds. You want the ball in the hands of your best player at the end of regulation. Hopefully Steve will make them next time. At the end of the first OT, Steve drove but Toronto had a foul to give and used it with about 6 seconds left. He should've drove again when the Rockets inbounded.
     
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    You still get to play 5 minutes in OT. It is inexcusable not to give the ball to your center who can score. I actually believe Cat is a better team player than SF. He tries to change under JVG. Surely YM had TO problems, but if you pass him the ball, from his play in the 3rd and 4th quarter, he is most likely to get a foul or made a 2-pointer.

    According to your logic, Kobe should shoot every time when there are 5 minutes left in the game? No wonder Shaq called his name.
     
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    I don't think it's endemic this year...Going into this game we were averaging over 18 assts/game, a respectable number.
     
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    You want the ball in the hands of your best player does NOT mean you want them to SHOOT it every time. You want them to win the game by making the best decision.
     
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    Agreed. As does Toronto. And they got it to Vince...who got it to the open shooters.

    Now granted Toronto wasn't running 2-3 guys at Steve like we were at Vince, but it still proves that wanting the ball in your best player's hands doesn't necessitate wanting him to shoot no matter what...
     
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    Geeze, you have the same mentality as SF. You want to shoot the ball every time. It is like SF wants to play the ball using his hand instead of his brain. ;) With Rox leading by 1, Steve does not need to shoot the ball. He should wait until there are 4-5 seconds left in the clock, and then drive to the basket. Hopefully he can get a foul call or get a layup or pass the ball to the open man. Remember if he does not make the shot, this only leaves Toronto with about 9 seconds. It will put a lot of pressure on them to make the winning shot.
     
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    That's NINE seconds, not .9 seconds. Toronto had a time-out. They would've had plenty of time to get a good shot.
     
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    I don't agree. Steve makes things happen and the ball should definitely pass through his hands on a last possesion. Remember the late go ahead score by Yao in the 1st Laker's game last year? That was a case of Steve drawing defenders to him and he finished big-time by dishing off brilliantly. Unfortunately, he did not make good decisions today and tried to do too much by himself. Under JVG, he will learn to do otherwise...
     

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