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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by rockHEAD, Sep 12, 2001.

  1. rockHEAD

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    rec'd from CNN at 1:17pm 9/12/01

    DEVELOPING STORY

    KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Officials of the Taliban, the hard-line Islamic rulers of Afghanistan, are appealing to the United States not to attack Afghanistan, CNN has learned. The plea came after an international message was passed along to senior Taliban officials, who were meeting Wednesday with Pakistan diplomats.


    For complete coverage of this story visit:
    http://www.CNN.com

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    hmmmm... OK... since you said so!
     
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  2. Stevierebel

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    Yeah we won't attack you just because you asked us to. We won't attack if you let us have our time with Bin Laton alone. Ok, that is when we won't attack y'all.

    Whoever attacked us will get blown up. There is nothing else that the US citizens will accept. They will pay with their lives!!!!
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    <B>Yeah we won't attack you just because you asked us to. We won't attack if you let us have our time with Bin Laton alone. Ok, that is when we won't attack y'all. </B>

    Actually, this is what I'm worried about. I've heard that Afghanistan might turn over Bin Laden himself. That's nice and all, but I'd still hope we go in and eliminate his bases, military support, training camps, etc. The group will just do more dumbass attacks in "retaliation" for us taking Bin Laden if we don't take out the rest of the group.
     
  5. mrpaige

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    We've talked about the Taliban before. They were the ones blowing up the statues and wanting religious minorities to wear special designations (though I believe they backed off on that). They don't seem to be all that cool of a group.
     
  6. SamCassell

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    Agreed, shanna. We're dealing with an entire terrorist organization here, not a single individual. The entire operation needs to be quashed, not just its leader. Cut off the head and another (or more than one) will grow back in its place.
     
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    How about we let them hand over Bin and then we level the terrorist group in addition. Afghanistan as a whole should be spared, but we should destroy as much of the meat and potatoes as we can.
     
  8. haven

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    Part of the reason bin Laden is so dangerous though is his status as a former hero and his incredible wealth.

    If they lose access to those, then a considerable blow has been struck. I'd prefer to eliminate the entire organization, but it would be tremendous progress.

    SHANNA: Where did you hear that?
     
  9. Major

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    I saw (or read) it earlier this morning. Nothing definite, but Afghanistan has said that if there's clear evidence of Bin Laden's involvement, they would consider extradition. I assume it was a fear response after seeing the US reaction. My concern is that I don't want the US to make a deal "extradition in exchange for leaving Afghanistan alone".
     
  10. Dr of Dunk

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    How about we get bin Laden, force him to ride in a car with a woman, and shave his beard off and give him an American-style haircut? :)

    He'd kill himself!
     
  11. moestavern19

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    I think we give The Taliban an affidavit , Give us Bin Laden or we come in after you . Either you cooperate or we come in and take you all out . And if they won't They are harboring a fugitive who is repsponsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans and if they dont get out of the way they will be crushed altogether .
     
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    The problem with the Taliban handing over Bin Laden is that the people in Afghanistan like him, and if the Taliban gave him up, then there's a pretty good chance that the people will throw the Taliban out as well.

    It seems like the Taliban needs Bin Laden as much as Bin Laden needs the Taliban, but things might change now that the US might hold Afghanistan responsible for this tragedy...
     
  13. haven

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    The people already hate the Taliban. But if they hear you say anything, you get shot.

    I'm not sure the Taliban is CAPABLE of capturing bin Laden.
     
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    Afghanistan should read this:

    <b><i>NATO is saying that when the U.S. was attacked, the Alliance was attacked.</b></i>


    Tick tock tick tock. . . . . .
     
  15. Dr of Dunk

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    Then send them both to hell in each other's arms... :rolleyes:
     
  16. Clutch

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    The problem is the Taliban are adamant that this was not the work of Bin Laden. That is was too big to be the "work of one man". They seem to be defending him.

    One other problem -- war with Afghanistan would be a nightmare. Getting our troops there would be very difficult. Can't get much farther away from our country and you also face problems if you have airlift troops over Pakistan or Iraq to get there.

    Air strikes however shouldn't cause this problem. Russia also could be an ally. Using nukes I hope is not an option. I do however hope they hit strategic locations and hit them hard - very, very, very hard. We have seen what the work of 3 men seizing the controls of one of our own airplanes can do to us. What if we seize Bin Laden, and in retaliation they hit us with a chemical weapon? Or a nuclear weapon? We must hit them 100-fold in return so they will think before ever doing something like this again, and bringing the repurcussions upon their own people another time.
     
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    Hey Clutch, word just came through that Russia is giving their "Full Support", so there you go. And China has offered to fight "terrorism", not just Bin Laden. So the countries are coming together now.
     
  18. SamCassell

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    It's Iran, not Iraq, that borders Afghanistan. But I definitely see your point about airlifting troops, Clutch. Of course it would be great if either Iran or Pakistan (both of whom denounced the bombings and the people who did them) would willingly allow us to move troops through their country. But that's probably a pipe dream. Going through the former Soviet states is a longer trip but might be more viable, diplomatically. Still like you say airstrikes present less of a problem (violating airspace of those countries, but I doubt that either country would dare to shoot one of our planes down). And I think we've got the military capacity to do serious damage to the entire country of Afghanistan, let alone a single terrorist group, using nothing but aircraft and missles.
     
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    Clutch-
    I totally agree. I don't want him sitting in an American prison. If he can talk pilots into sacrificng themselves you know there are many more that would try anything to get him out.
    Treat him like Saddam. Destroy his country, but unlike Saddam, take him down during the battle.
    Show his troops a crushing defeat, take out their leaders and leave them in an area which has been destroyed because of them. I'm sure there would be some neighbors that would blame the USA but many more would be as eager to get the remaining terrorists out of their lives.
     
  20. gr8-1

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    To me, this is a major positive. With all of the big countries supporting us, I fear a World War less, and now Afghanistan knows it's back is REALLY against the wall.

    Gettting Bin Laden is NOT enough. Some of his followers may view him as a martyr for the Islamic cause. Squash all of terrrorism, but realistically, this problem will never go away. The oppressed will always stand and fight for what they believe is right.
     

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