So I'm sitting here looking at stats from Basketball-reference.com instead of studying for my huge final tomorrow. I came across a statistic I didn't know much about: Player Efficiency Rating I'm not sure if this has been brought up in the past, but maybe someone can better explain what it is? It's been around since 1952. After looking through who is rated, I assume a lot of factors go into it, especially team play. All I know is TMac is #11 all time (the top 10 consisting of Hall of Famers or sure HOFers) at 23.96, three spots ahead of Hakeem (23.59) and 7 spots ahead of Kobe (23.17). Code: 1 Michael Jordan 27.91 2 Shaquille O'Neal 27.82 3 David Robinson 26.18 4 Wilt Chamberlain* 26.16 5 Bob Pettit* 25.41 6 Tim Duncan 25.07 7 Neil Johnston* 24.78 8 Charles Barkley* 24.63 9 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58 10 Magic Johnson* 24.11 11 Tracy McGrady 23.96 It probably doesn't mean much, but I thought it was pretty interesting. Of course the years in Orlando, TMac was the MVP (using the Steve Nash explanation). And here's another absolutely amazing stat: Hall of Fame Probability The top 60 or so are all in the Hall of Fame or are locks to get in. Just for reference, Jordan and Shaq are in the top 10 with .9999, Hakeem is at 20 with .9977. TMac is at # 74 with .7290. But here's where it gets funny: Code: 101 Stephon Marbury .4521 102 Steve Francis .4505 103 Dirk Nowitzki .4432 What other interesting stats can you come up with? Stats taken from http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/
Salary leaders are for the 1968 through 2006 NBA seasons. 1 Shaquille O'Neal $191,614,005 2 Kevin Garnett $147,413,420 3 Alonzo Mourning $129,279,900 4 Patrick Ewing *$123,843,120 5 Chris Webber $121,242,500 6 Juwan Howard $118,238,700 7 David Robinson *$118,135,623 8 Scottie Pippen *$109,862,430 9 Dikembe Mutombo $108,738,924 10 Karl Malone *$106,468,378 11 Anfernee Hardaway $104,399,000 12 Gary Payton $102,494,247 13 Hakeem Olajuwon * $99,364,188 14 Reggie Miller * $99,051,748 15 Allan Houston $98,431,500 16 Latrell Sprewell $96,622,500 17 Rasheed Wallace $94,318,246 18 Michael Jordan * $93,772,500 19 Grant Hill $91,653,000 20 Vlade Divac $91,120,625 http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/salary_career.html
Juwan's rediculous contract fixed the game. Guys like Tim Duncan probably aren't too thrilled about it though.
Aaron Williams 1994-2006 Al Williams 1971-1971 Alvin Williams 1998-2006 Art Williams 1968-1975 Bernie Williams 1970-1974 Bob Williams 1956-1957 Brandon Williams 1998-2003 Buck Williams 1982-1998 Charles Williams 1968-1973 Chuck Williams 1971-1978 Chuckie Williams 1977-1977 Cliff Williams 1969-1969 Corey Williams 1993-1994 Deron Williams 2006-2006 Duck Williams 1980-1980 Earl Williams 1975-1979 Eric Williams 1996-2006 Fly Williams 1975-1975 Frank Williams 2003-2005 Freeman Williams 1979-1986 Gene Williams 1970-1970 Gus Williams 1976-1987 Guy Williams 1985-1986 Hank Williams 1975-1975 Herb Williams 1982-1999 Hot Rod Williams 1987-1999 Jason Williams 1999-2006 Jay Williams 2003-2003 Jayson Williams 1991-1999 Jerome Williams 1997-2005 John Williams 1987-1995 Kenny Williams 1991-1994 Kevin Williams 1984-1989 Lorenzo Williams 1993-2000 Louis Williams 2006-2006 Marvin Williams 2006-2006 Maurice Williams 2004-2006 Micheal Williams 1989-1999 Mike Williams 1990-1990 Milt Williams 1971-1975 Monty Williams 1995-2003 Nate Williams 1972-1979 Pete Williams 1986-1987 Ray Williams 1978-1987 Reggie Williams 1988-1997 Rickey Williams 1983-1983 Rob Williams 1983-1984 Ron Williams 1969-1976 Sam Williams 1969-1970 Sam Williams 1982-1985 Scott Williams 1991-2005 Shammond Williams 1999-2004 Sly Williams 1980-1986 Travis Williams 1998-1999 Walt Williams 1993-2003 Ward Williams 1949-1949 Willie Williams 1971-1971
These stats don't factor in alot of things for example: Robinson only won a championship w/ Duncan if one was to come to the conclusion that these were player rankings, no way in hell is Robinson ahead of Olajuwon
Well, just got out of my exam after an all nighter and instead of napping, I'm back researching stats. I came across the formula for finding the PER: http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/4/7/0/4706604464b973bebda830a8dd22fca8.png WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY too long to post the image here, but ! ============== On to other stats: In the Player Wins category (whatever the hell that is), we've got Hakeem at #2 all time...behind "Goose Egg" Malone: Code: 1 Karl Malone 226.07 2 Hakeem Olajuwon 186.83 3 Michael Jordan 184.44 ============== NEIL JOHNSTON Height: 6' 8" Weight: 225 And for more on the obscure Neil Johnston, here's some of his bio: Played basketball at Ohio State Was drafted by the Philadelphia Phillies, but never made it to the big leagues The Warriors were interested in the 6' 8" guy, so they took a chance on him Played from 1951-59; lead the NBA in scoring (1952-55), rebounding (1955), and field goal percentage (1953,1956-57) Appeared in six All-Star Games In 1955-56 Johnston, along with Paul Arizin and Tom Gola, led the Warriors to the NBA championship After retirement, he became a coach (including Wilt's first two years) Died in 1978; elected into the Hall in 1990 Information from: http://www.hoophall.com/halloffamers/Johnston.htm Learn something new every day I guess. ============== Now on to another stat: Assist/Turnover Ratio While it might not prove to be much of a stat to some, I view it as a great way to evaluate quality point guards (and other positions too). Code: 1 John Stockton 12.9571 2 Muggsy Bogues 11.8241 3 Johnny Moore 10.33924 4 Magic Johnson 9.586584 5 Mark Jackson 9.352776 6 Corey Gaines 9.092907 7 Brevin Knight 8.994472 8 Sidney Lowe 8.864407 9 Kevin Johnson 8.6639 10 Nate Mcmillan 8.520086 11 Pooh Richardson 8.216311 12 Rickey Green 8.005071 13 Avery Johnson 7.928915 14 Greg Grant 7.900299 15 [b]Chris Paul[/b] 7.841225 Two things; first, at #15 all-time is Chris Paul, above the likes of Steve Nash (#17) and Jason Kidd (#18). Granted he's only played in one season, but it will be worth seeing over the next few seasons if this Rookie of the Year's play remains exceptional. Second, just looking through the top 60 in the category, only 4 ever wore a Houston jersey. Sure, guys like Rod Strickland (#22), Mark Jackson (#5), and Taz (#13) played for the Rockets, but these guys were immensely underwhelming. Of the games played by the four one-time Rockets in the top 60, 63% of the games played between them were by one man. I present to you the "best" guard to ever play for the Houston Rockets... SCOTT BROOKS?!?! Yes indeed, with his ~6.61 career Assist/Turnover Ratio, Mr. Brooks, at #34 all-time, is the highest rated Rocket that played in a decent amount of games. Let's hear it for the little guy! okay, so technically when each of these played with the Rox, Brooks was actually the worst with a rough average PPR of 3.28 for his 2+ year tenure; he was pretty good in '92-'93 with a 5.94, playing in all 82 games; but hey, how can one avoid giving the good Scottie some love? he didn't quit; he just sucked Man, imagine what a REAL point guard could do for this team!
How could you not know what "player efficiency" is? There was a "Yao's PER" thread about it every day during the season!
If McGrady remains healthy and plays through the age of 35 or so at/near his career-averages, he's a definite HOF. However, much like Grant Hill, we all know how quickly that can be derailed due to no fault of their own
Something I posted on another board, using the cool APBRMetrics Labs feature at b-r.com: Here's the top 10 by age bracket for current players, combining years. The age considered is as of February 1st of a given season. Minimum minutes played set to 500 minutes. Shaq is far and away the most dominating player, as one would expect. And if you're wondering, Kobe just missed out the top 10 for the 18-22 bracket. He was number 12, behind Yao, and had a 20.52 PER. If you look at 18-19 age bracket, he'd be 5th (behind McGrady, LeBron, Carmelo, and Dwight Howard in that order). Current Players 18-22 Code: [color="Navy"]Name Yrs MP PER[/color] 1 Shaquille O'Neal 3 9218 26.7 2 LeBron James 3 9871 24.2 3 Tim Duncan 2 5167 22.9 4 Tracy McGrady 5 10746 22.5 5 Chris Paul 1 2809 22.1 6 Elton Brand 3 8926 21.6 7 Chris Webber 3 5063 21.3 8 Amare Stoudemire 3 7484 21.2 9 Andrei Kirilenko 3 7259 21.0 10 Alonzo Mourning 1 2644 20.8 23-27 Code: [color="Navy"]Name Yrs MP PER[/color] 1 Shaquille O'Neal 5 10930 28.9 2 Tim Duncan 5 15085 25.9 3 Kevin Garnett 5 16173 25.4 4 Tracy McGrady 4 10557 25.4 5 Dwyane Wade 2 5871 25.3 6 Dirk Nowitzki 5 15030 25.3 7 Kobe Bryant 5 14874 25.0 8 Elton Brand 4 11220 23.6 9 Yao Ming 3 7085 23.4 10 Gilbert Arenas 2 6657 22.6 28-32 Code: [color="Navy"]Name Yrs MP PER[/color] 1 Shaquille O'Neal 5 12838 28.2 2 Kevin Garnett 2 6081 27.5 3 Tim Duncan 2 4990 24.8 4 Paul Pierce 1 3087 23.6 5 Allen Iverson 3 8315 23.3 6 Alonzo Mourning 4 7262 23.1 7 Gary Payton 5 15035 22.4 8 Manu Ginobili 1 1816 22.4 9 Vince Carter 2 5736 22.2 10 Steve Nash 4 10697 22.1 33+ Code: [color="Navy"]Name Yrs MP PER[/color] 1 Shaquille O'Neal 1 1805 24.4 2 Sam Cassell 4 9714 20.8 3 Grant Hill 1 612 19.0 4 Gary Payton 5 14180 18.0 5 Alonzo Mourning 3 2221 17.5 6 Dikembe Mutombo 7 12658 16.5 7 Elden Campbell 4 4306 16.2 8 P.J. Brown 4 10561 15.4 9 Toni Kukoc 5 6839 15.0 10 Jon Barry 4 4421 14.8 And, for fun, here's the top ten lists looking at all players since 1978. People forget how good David Robinson was in his prime. From a statistical perspective, at least, he was awesome. All Players, since 1978 18-22 Code: [color="Navy"]Name Yrs MP PER[/color] 1 Shaquille O'Neal 3 9218 26.7 2 Michael Jordan 2 3595 26.1 3 LeBron James 3 9871 24.2 4 Tim Duncan 2 5167 22.9 5 Marques Johnson 2 5544 22.6 6 Magic Johnson 3 7157 22.6 7 Tracy McGrady 5 10746 22.5 8 Chris Paul 1 2809 22.1 9 Elton Brand 3 8926 21.6 10 Chris Webber 3 5063 21.3 23-27 Code: [color="Navy"]Name Yrs MP PER[/color] 1 Michael Jordan 5 16078 31.1 2 Shaquille O'Neal 5 10930 28.9 3 Charles Barkley 5 14581 27.1 4 David Robinson 4 11872 26.3 5 Tim Duncan 5 15085 25.9 6 Kevin Garnett 5 16173 25.4 7 Tracy McGrady 4 10557 25.4 8 Dwyane Wade 2 5871 25.3 9 Dirk Nowitzki 5 15030 25.3 10 Kobe Bryant 5 14874 25.0 28-32 Code: [color="Navy"]Name Yrs MP PER[/color] 1 David Robinson 5 11938 29.4 2 Michael Jordan 4 9927 28.5 3 Shaquille O'Neal 5 12838 28.2 4 Kevin Garnett 2 6081 27.5 5 Larry Bird 5 12433 26.5 6 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3 8565 26.4 7 Magic Johnson 4 11393 25.5 8 Hakeem Olajuwon 5 14070 25.5 9 Karl Malone 5 15721 25.1 10 Tim Duncan 2 4990 24.8 33+ Code: [color="Navy"]Name Yrs MP PER[/color] 1 Karl Malone 8 21051 24.8 2 Shaquille O'Neal 1 1805 24.4 3 Michael Jordan 4 11413 23.5 4 David Robinson 5 10462 22.4 5 Charles Barkley 4 6398 22.2 6 John Stockton 8 18749 21.9 7 Hakeem Olajuwon 7 13038 21.5 8 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 9 22532 21.2 9 Magic Johnson 1 958 21.1 10 Dan Issel 4 8663 21.0