Player comparison Cousins/Curry/Jordan Hill/Bosh

You are obsesed with Hill arent you

 

At some point Cousins was even compared to Duncan as a homeless man's version. He has that range from 20 ft. Good footwork. Not as fat as Curry. Good strength

 

Curry wasnt as fat as Curry either when he came into the league.....it's what happened to him later that was the problem...

i can say it doesnt look like cousins has ever been serious about weight lifting, as many young guys are...so that could potentially be what saves him. If he gets to lifting functionally and therefore improves his body's function it can only help him.

 

Let's not overrate the importance of vertical leap and height. Also, notice Cousin's excellent standing reach (9-5), which is somehow the same as Hasheem Thabeet's.

 

I bet you Stromile Swift can jump higher than all of them! Or that guy who did the 720 dunk from And1. Maybe Morey should draft him.

 

True. He's no shotblocker by design but his strenghts are toughness and rebounds. Defensive Rebounding belongs to that department. He can also use his length to defend. Heck, how does Duncan defend? Was he known for his jumping?

 

TD is 6'11 without shoes. Cousins isn't even 6'11 with shoes. I'm also pretty sure that although TD's vertical isn't above average or outstanding, it's probably decent, while Cousin's is clearly below average.

 

The height doesn't really matter because Cousins' standing reach is comparable to Hasheem Thabeet. Basically for height purposes he's as tall as you need to be.

The thing that's wrong with comparing Duncan to Cousins is Cousins is a fat tub of lard with mental red flags while Duncan is one of the most mature and foucused players the NBA has ever seen. Don't even compare the two because if Cousins had half Duncan's mentality he'd have been the sure-fire first pick.

Anybody who thinks Cousins doesn't have at least a 60% chance of becoming Eddy Curry needs to take off the rose-tinted glasses. Chapman is right about the measurements, especially given the fact that Cousins was actually fatter than Curry when he came into the league.

 

it definitely does matter......if two guys of equal reach go for the ball, the one with longer arms is at a disadvantage because of a longer levers (arms), assuming they have similar strength. Same goes for going for a blocked shot, a longer arm is more likely to get pushed back than a shorter one. Then it'll also affect him some in post up situations. The only way it wouldnt matter would be if the whole game they were both going up for jumpballs, which they wont be, otherwise other factors come into play.

looking at cousin's dunk...he's not coming down to dunk, he's always at the height of his jump as he's dunking...basketball isn't all about dunks, but for a big at center he's going to have alot of opportunities to dunk and that's only going to hurt him.

 

You get no defense from Cousins? Really? It seems that Rockets vice president of player personnel Gersson disagrees with your assessment:

DeMarcus Cousins, C, Kentucky

"Big with impressive skill package. Aggressive offensive game. Elite rebounder. Strong defensive impact."

http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2010/06/...s_eye_view.html


Would I trade Hill and Whiteside for Cousins? Yes, I do that deal in a minute. Unfortunately I seriously doubt that any of the teams picking in the top 5 would be foolish enough to trade their pick for Hill and #14. Otherwise the deal would have already been done.

 

I dont know about that....Hill himself was an 8th pick and could have possibly gone 6 or 7...meanwhile cousins still may go 5th...i know draft spots don't equal exactly from year to year, but its still something to strongly consider. You'd be giving up two lottery picks for one that barely makes the top 5.

 

Weights would be good, if he doesn't overdo it. Greg Oden actually worked hard to put on additional muscle. I think it just increased the likely chance of having surgery for a foot/knee injury.

 

That's a funny comparison for whoever made it. He's not a homeless man's version of Duncan, since homeless people are starving. Duncan is 50 lbs lighter and quicker. He's more like the well-fed fat man's version of Duncan. :grin:

 

i think it has a lot to do with leg structure or leg mechanics... some players, oden and deke included, tend to stand or land knock kneed and all it takes is a bad landing and bad luck to suffer a serious injury around the knee. Scola has a similar habit, but i dont tihnk he gets up enough to worry about landing awkwardly :grin:

 

This is the problem with measurements...

 

Where do you get this stuff? If two guys have equal reach the ball can go to either one...they basically have the same height! How about the fact that smaller guys tend to be lighter and can jump higher? Won't that enable you to increase your standing reach even more, and the fact that you're lighter means less stress on your knees?

Pushed back? What the hell does getting pushed back have to do with blocking shots? 99% of the time when you block a shot it has already been released, unless your like paper thing there's 0% chance your arm will get blown away by a released ball.

Also if you have longer arms it allows you more angles to either attck or defend. Whereas if you have the height but have t-rex arms you're gonna have problems with rebounding the ball. You don't catch balls with your head, you do it with your arms.