Is this basso's first drunken post? Dude....it's supposed to be in the regular part of the hangout, and it's supposed to be about sex!
You make outlines for bbs posts? That, my friend is scary...and a little sad. I think instead of making outlines you should spend that time making sailboats in bottles. The bbs really does not warrant planning and outlining.
I read it, and I wish I could cook some of those things, my expertise being limited to the joys of East Texas, and other Texas delicacies. In fact, I'm getting hungry! basso, I don't think I've commented on your recent error in judgement. As best I can tell, this was your attempt at an apology. If it was, than I accept it. Now, if you could somehow pull your head out of your rear regarding the joys of George W. Bush, I would be more impressed. Time to move on. Besides, there aren't too many Republicans, or Bush supporters who claim they aren't Republicans, in D&D that can write more than 3 sentences strung together. I'd hate to lose one than can, even if he drives me crazy. D&D. A Link is more than a Sausage.
where in east texas? my mom grew up in san augustine, and her folks moved to nacogdoches when we were kids. she was born in a little town called choice, which never was much more than a railroad siding and a general store/post office. it's gone now i believe, the town i mean, but i'm pro-choice!
So, you are now claiming the mantle of "echoer" and then say that the "strident" left "regurgitates" "almost verbatim?" Funny, I thought it was just the opposite given some recent posts of yours. Look basso, I appreciate what you're trying to do here... but the fact remains that when you were called on this instead of manning up or explaining yourself, you initially tried to ignore it and then you dragged me into it with the suggestion that I was guilty of a similar thing. Perhaps I see this as an all too typical reponse of the Right these days... when caught, ignore. When you can't ignore, look for something that might be related to deflect blame... Abramoff and the corruption of the mechanisms of government becomes the same as the corruption of a single Dem congreessman. The systematic exclusion of African-Americans in Florida and the games played with the polling places in Ohio becomes the same as a kid slashing the tires on a Republican's van in Wisconsin or stealing yard signs somewhere. Torture becomes fraternity pranks. Plagiarism becomes the same thing as "echoing" (even when it's not.) Whether you realize it or not, it appears to me that you have completely succumbed to the Rovian mindset. This approach is foreign and infuriating to me and really speaks to the hypocrisy of the "personal responsibility" party that you support. Yes. Another manifestation of the current Republican mindset... the non-apology apology... "I could have, should have" instead of: "I'm sorry. It was wrong. It won't happen again." Still, I recognize it for what it is, so, apology accepted. OK, done with all that... just don't don't repeat. (And thanks for including some capital letters in this post.) Now, to the larger issue... I agree with you that we all echo to some degree. I realize I post a lot of articles and I'm particularly enamored with Greenwald's blog. But that's what makes this place great... everyone's looking at different things or the same things differently and it all comes together here in a fun way... but it's also what makes this place so treacherous... since we're only monikers and the personalities we've developed, we have to be extra careful not to lose our identities to the larger forces that want just that very thing.
not sure where you get that i tried to "ignore it". i addressed it in the thread, w/in a few posts of my original. as to dragging you into it- only you can decide if what you did is equivalent. i found the similarities striking, in content, and particularly in tone, but perhaps that's the danger of listening to the echo chamber.
Lightweight. I usually submit mine to my old review panel. After they return the three different edits/critiques, I make a synthesis of corrections and then click "submit reply". I find this to be very efficient and needed.
I live in the American Gardens Building on W. 81st Street on the 11th floor. My name is Patrick Bateman. I'm 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
can someone link the original plagiarism? how many other articles/posts have you also done this rountine basso? credibility sinking fast.............
Long sigh. Really basso... do you want to keep after this... I had my say and was willing to drop it. Now you come back with this post? All you said in the original thread was "I should have included a link." From the time Gifford (post #164) pointed out your plagiarism to the end of the thread, here's what you wrote: That's it. You had over 70 posts and over 5 hours to say something meaningful (like a real apology) before the thread closed down, but instead you tried to dismiss it with "I should have included a link" and you compounded it by trying to equate what I wrote with what you copied and then you got angry about being called out (#211). No. If that were the case (that only I can decide) then the logical extension of the argument is that plagiarism would only be known to the one who committed it. And I guess it takes a large set to make this claim when you explicitly suggested it was equivalent in your post (#184). Again, my post was not plagiarism. It may have "echoed" other things out there, but it didn't "echo" the examples you cited. Anyone who can read and is not trying to deflect blame from their own plagiarism can see this. For the last time basso... drop this.
At this point, nothing he posts without a citation can possibly be accepted as his own. I mean, he blatantly plagiarized the hotair piece, was busted and has now posted some drivel about risotto and having a poor memory (ENORMOUS understatement) in an attempt to obfuscate. He asks "Did I plagiarize the hotair article?" as if there is some room for debate. Of course he did! He has not a leg to stand on. But he's going through this charade to try and salvage what little credibility he has left. Of course, even his stupid cooking analogy (like his Iraq-WWII analogy and his Bush-Patriots analogy) doesn't work. Yesterdays plagiarism wasn't akin to his taking a recipe and changing a few ingrediants and then explaining it to his family. No, what basso did yesterday was akin to buying some take-out, salting and peppering it and then passing it off as having been totally prepared by himself with no explanation whatsoever. He didn't forget the link or to "edit" enough. He stole somebody else's words and passed them off as his own...until he was busted and embarrassed, that is. This pathetic attempt to justify his blatant plagiarism doesn't even address his vile hypocrisy; what with his accusing mcmark of having no opinions of his own barely a day earlier. His is utterly lacking in integrity.
A dreaded sunny day so I meet you at the cemetry gates Keats and Yeats are on your side A dreaded sunny day so I meet you at the cemetry gates Keats and Yeats are on your side while Wilde is on mine So we go inside and we gravely read the stones all those people all those lives where are they now ? with loves, and hates and passions just like mine they were born and then they lived and then they died which seems so unfair and I want to cry You say: "ere thrice the sun hath done salutation to the dawn" and you claim these words as your own but I'm well-read, have heard them said a hundred times (maybe less, maybe more) if you must write prose/poems the words you use should be your own dont plagiarise or take "on loans" there's alweays someone, somewhere with a big nose, who knows and who trips you up and laughs when you fall You say: "ere long done do does did " words which could only be your own you then produce the text from whence was ripped (some dizzy w****, 1804) A dreaded sunny day so let's go where we're happy so I meet you at the cemetry gates Keats and Yeats are on your side A dreaded sunny day so let's go where we're wanted so I meet you at the cemetry gates Keats and Yeats are on your side but you lose because Wilde is on mine
Basso, you plagiarized. It is an open and shut case. But what is worse (as Rimrocker pointed out) you continue to try smear other people to make what you did look less bad. This is not an isolated incident with you. It is similar to the whole Felix issue, where you were completely wrong and when faced with incontrovertable evidence that you were wrong, would not admit it, then said you did admit it, then started posting about having sex with your wife, for some strange reason. There have been other incidents as well. I have called you the most intellectually dishonest poster on this BBS on more than one occasion. I'm sure you read that as "He disagrees with me." But it's not that. It means that you do not debate in good faith. You doggedly ignore inconvenient facts and you pretend to misunderstand things that are clearly within your grasp. It just so happens that in this case what you did was so blatant you can't ignore it. You know what you did was wrong or you wouldn't have posted this thread in the first place. If you want to turn over a new leaf just admit it without quibbling and say you won't do it again. I imagine most people here would let it drop after that.
well, that's a mighty creative reading. i addressed it immediately, and then created an entire thread that whose sole purpose is to call attention to it! i'm sorry if it doesn't meet your sack-cloth and ashes standards for bbs mea culpas, or whatever examples of abasement you find appropriate, but i was attempting to address it head on, not run from it. and your explanation, in your first post and here, simply reinforces my impression that you feel nothing a democrat does can ever be as bad as what a republican does. voter fraud and intimidation? you attempt to minimize documented democratic examples, and highlight anecdotal examples that of supposed republican malfeasance, much of which has already been disproved. nothing on the voter fraud in st. louis? why might that be? and in florida, nothing on gore's character assassination of karthrine harris (who is admittedly not the most sympathetic figure- but gore made a conscious decision to demonize her, and make her the issue). why not? fair and balanced just a slogan?
