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Phoenix adds Jumaine Jones, Rockets need a shooter

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Honey Bear, Aug 30, 2006.

  1. Honey Bear

    Honey Bear Member

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    Just signed another volume shooter in Jumaine Jones. Their management believes in their system and continues to strengthen it. Although Houston knows perimeter shooting/defense is their weakness, we've given out contracts to Spanoulis and Lucas who are unproven half court players. Snyder was a good addition but nothing concrete. We still don't have a real SG that can shoot! Too many variables on a team that we expect to compete for the WCF.

    Volume shooters (quick release, capable of 100+ 3PM at 35%+):

    Steve Nash (PG)
    James Jones (SF, PF)
    Jumaine Jones (SF, PF)
    Eric Piatkowski (SG, SF)
    Raja Bell (SG)

    Spot up shooters :

    Shawn Marion
    Leandro Barbosa

    We need to add a proven shooter like Jasikevicus or Morris Peterson to compete (even a Gordan Giricek would work as long as he doesn't try to create), and rely on Van Gundy's trapping schemes to make up for our lack of foot speed on the perimeter. I'm not confident in any of our 1-2 guards as of now, we shouldn't wait until the trade deadline to bring in a bonafide player if we choose to do so.
     
  2. Gutter Snipe

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    Come on man, drink the kool-aid! Both J Lucas III and Spanoulis are young and exciting additions to our team. This is the season for hope, not despair!
     
  3. gucci888

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    Jones is gonna average 15ppg next year and get a huge contract.
     
  4. steddinotayto

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    this is the DUMBEST correlation I've seen in a while here at CF.

    Phoenix adds Jumaine Jones

    therefore

    Rockets need a shooter

    Who the heck is Jumaine Jones? He's not an all-world shooter. I bet Novak can shoot just as well if not better than Jones.
     
  5. kingkow

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    well doesn't look so much like it as he drifts from team to team
     
  6. Honey Bear

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    Not really a correlation, just a reminder that the Rockets should be addressing some needs to keep up with their competitors in the Western Conference (Phoenix is a team in the Western Conference). The Houston Rockets normally play teams in the Western Conference 4 times a year, as opposed to the average 2 times a year they play teams in the Eastern Conference (where you have teams like Philadelphia, Miami, etc). The chances are also very high you run into a team like Phoenix in the 2nd round or WCF of the playoffs. Hope that helped clear things up for you.

    He's hit more than a 100 3-pointers in 3 of his last 4 seasons, the 1 exception being an injury riddled 03-04 season with Boston.
     
  7. crums17

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    I agree. Our failure to acquire Jumaine Jones is basically admitting that we are tanking the season. Pack your bags Oden, you're coming to Texas.
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    Are you saying without Jones Rox can definetely beat Phoenix and now with the addition of Jones Phoenix will sure beat us and the only way we can beat Phoenix is we add a high volume 3 point shooter? :rolleyes:
     
  9. Sextuple Double

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    See what happens when we don't sign MVP candidates :rolleyes:
     
  10. Flamescreen

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    Well, I can tell you that Spanoulis for the time being is no shooter. Have no idea how he'll develop for the NBA and shooting is a matter of practice(Some of the best shooters I'm personally familiar with, like Stoyakovic and earlier Petrovic and of course, most Lithuanian guards do a routine of like maybe 1000 practice shots long range to achieve that and must never let that practice decintegrate).

    Of the listed, I doubt Giricek would be a substantial help. Steve Nash, is ofcourse top notch, but Houston can't acquire him anyway, and I doubt it's easy to find a second "Nash" easily. Jasikevicious is good in shooting, but he was never focused on that, it's just that the Lithuanian school of basket is good at that. Despite being a bench-warmer, I have faith in Machiyauskas abilities in the area.

    Granted, he didn't went well in WCOB either, but you can say the exact same for Barbosa as well(against Greece and Turkey he was non-existant in the game). He's playing for our team, Olympiakos this year, so I'll let you in on how well he's doing after the season ends. He's expected to save the team from the late Oblivion.


    JJ wouldn't be bad to have, but I don't think you have to focus on a certain area just cause your opponents do so. That's like, playing their game and believing you have to overcome them and thus proves you're afraid of them.
    They should be afraid of Yao and TM and you have to work around that, your strengths and force THEM to do something to compensate, not vice versa(not to say I'm denouncing peripheral shooting, gave LA, Chicago and even the last great Rox team their championships, and as was said, Suns are re-enforcing their strength, why can't Rox do that as well?).

    Just saying there might be other ways to win, even if you don't have elements other teams do have.
     
  11. A_3PO

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    What you are missing is every time Phoenix or Dallas sign someone (or even just invite a player to camp) it indicates some kind of failure on the Rockets part. That's the knee-jerk reaction some people here have. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Honey Bear

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    I guess the thread title is misleading to many. Others are just struggling to read. This thread isn't really about Jumaine Jones, it's about how stacked the Phoenix Suns are and how the "pieces" we've added this offseason don't necessarily make sense outside of Battier and Novak.

    True. We'll be a good team with Yao, McGrady and Battier, but you wonder how well all the uncertanties fit in with our stagnant offense. We won't see much movement under JVG, so you have to expect spacing and shooting to be the keys in our role players succeeding. That's just my take on it.
     
  13. Deckard

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    In that case, can I be the first to say it? Wrong forum!!! :p
     
  14. Desert Scar

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    For the record Jumaine Jones looked to be the best plausible free agent left for the Rockets to sign.

    That said, I don't know what his role will be for them and don't assume he is going to score a lot. 8 guys will clearly get more PT and more shots--Nash, Bell, Marion, Diaw, Amare, Barbosa, Banks and Thomas. Jumaine J., James J., and Pike will fight for the 9th man spot, man they are deep.

    Maybe we could get James Jones off them for the TE just for them to reduce their roster and salary a little bit, he totally seems like an odd man out. Would maybe even make them give us a 2nd to take off his 2.5mil type salary.
     
  15. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Going into the offseason I was looking at guys like Jumaine Jones and Rasual Butler as cheap FAs that could help the Rockets.

    Jones is one of those "combo-forwards" that can stretch the defense with the shot. He is exactly the kind of forwards teams are looking to get these days with more teams playing more small ball.

    Perhaps the Rockets non-interest in Jones is the fact they feel comfortable in Steve Novak to do the job off the bench?
     
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    Funny stuff. Look at Phoenix's budget. They are looking for ways to dump Marion's contract and not lose performance. That team is headed for mediocrity if Amare doesn't come back to his 2004-05 self.
     
  17. Desert Scar

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    They were better without Amare than we were without Tmac or Yao. But yes if any of the 3 superstars are not in top form those teams are not championship contenders.

    If Amare comes back strong dumping Marion for cap relief and picks would be a smart move.

    What about taking James Jones off them with our TE. Gives us another SF/SG. I guess we can wait and see if Snyder will work out, who I do think has more raw talent.
     
  18. IC2000

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    Luther Head can shoot the hell out of the ball
     
  19. tiger0330

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    Novak is the guy I'm putting my money on as our shooting specialist. JVG needs to play him though, he ain't scoring any points nailed to the bench. Missing like 6 FTs in 4 years of college has to make you think the guy can put the ball in the hole blindfolded.
     
  20. Desert Scar

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    Yes, but for him to be a starting player he probably needs to become more of a 1 than 2.

    What I think we are most missing is a big SG (probably at least 6'4", unless really strong) or SF/SG who is reasonably athletic and can shoot. (Raja Bell would be perfect)

    Snyder might be this guy. Abuz might be this guy. But one guy is unproven as a team guy, and the other is unproven in terms of having NBA talent.

    Steve Novak might be an NBA shooter and might provide a nice roll on the team, but he can't quick forwards let alone your average SGs, and won't help our athleticism. Somelike James Jones (who seems very expendable with Bell and Barbosa better 2s, and Phx stocked with better SFs or combo Fs too) might help.
     

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