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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bratna8, Mar 1, 2007.

  1. bratna8

    bratna8 Member

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    VSpan starts and Rafer comes off the bench.

    We have to do it now with 20+games remaining or it'll be too late.

    Penetrating = VSpan > Rafer (we all know this)

    Passing = Rafer > VSpan (but when other teams starts to put pressure on the ball, Rafer crumbles under pressure which makes VSpan more effective because he can make them pay with his slashing style of play).

    Shooting = VSpan = Rafer (You guys say that VSpan can't shoot, do you think Rafer can :confused: :confused: )

    Rockets management you have to do it starting Friday against the Nuggets.
     
  2. baller4life315

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    Good luck trying to sell this idea to JVG......
     
  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I love watching Vspam penetrate! He puts his head down, runs around like a chicken, somehow finds himself in the paint. Once he realizes he is in the paint he looks completely lost and surprisingly by the grace of god sometimes makes something semi-nifty almost happen. Sadly... Ya. He might be better than Rafer.

    But still.
     
  4. bratna8

    bratna8 Member

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    It worked against team USA :) plus we don't have to watch those bullsh*t teardrop shots that never goes in.
     
  5. Madman George

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    a bit late for that this season. Vspan should have gotten back up pg minutes bout 57 games ago... rafer has to battle it out this year and get vspan major time next year.
     
  6. kaleidosky

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    this is crazy. A "start VSpan" thread after 2 losses? Who woulda thunk it?
     
  7. roxfan123

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    That is going too far. But I think in all fairness, Bill should play whatever minutes JL3 has. JL3 should be nailed to the bench unless..Alston is injuried.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I don't think there is a snowball's chance in hades of V-Span starting, but maybe JVG will insert him into the rotation at the backup PG spot at some point.

    If you watch the press conference JVG hints at having to find a rotation that brings energy every night etc....

    I do think the Rockets need a 2nd creative player on the floor when team's double Tmac.....and V-Span is the logical choice.

    DD
     
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    I am not that sure whether JVG will follow your logic, but hope so. A little bit late to develop the right guy, better than nothing though.
     
  10. highfly

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    Although I want Spanoulis to play to his potential as much as anyone, I think he's not ready to start at pg because he isn't even a regular part of the rotation as of now. He could be a nice backup and start developing from there.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I concur, and if he stinks you know I will be the first one to criticize his play.

    :D

    DD
     
  12. buzz1701

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    Just forget it...Vspan is not ready to play major minutes yet. Heck we can't even trust our starters or our key backups to perform at a level we need to win in this league. We are in a title race and we can't be giving quality minutes to untested and untrusted players. The Rox have to play their best every night. Also...Vspan hasn't shown, (in the limited time that he has received), that he is ready to play or take minutes away from any of our other players. I don't see the ball handling skills that would make him a point guard and his defense is certainly not up to JVG standards. Look...I think Vspan can play in this league and I feel he has a future with the Rockets, but it's not going to happen this year at least not while we are in playoff contention. And the same thing goes for Novak. We just can't trust these unknowns.[/
     
  13. Rockets Dynasty

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    I would venture to say the current point guard rotation of

    Alston a backup PG playing 38-40 minutes (something 90 percent of fans seem to think is a bad idea)

    Head a 6-3 one dimensional spot up catch and shoot player that doesn't guard anyone playing minutes at backup point (a position he has ZERO skills to play)

    Lucas a 5-11 midget SG that cannot guard anyone


    is easily the worst in the league now that JVG has settled in on this particular "rotation" it was sketchy before with a 6th man player on a playoff team to 7th to 9th type player on a title team in Alston playing major minutes and a 3rd string at his best player in Lucas manning the spot, but now that JVG threw in Head a player that has zero point skills at all and Lucas and Head neither one can guard worth a damn............

    well now the point guard rotation is absolutely horrible.

    Mike James is a backup PG and many here long for him like some messiah and he is just a backup PG.

    So your idea that the whole issue of not playing Spanoulis is because we are trying to win really is the same logic JVG uses like "I just hate Euros not named Dirk."


    The BIGGEST reason we are LOSING is because of the point guard spot.
     
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    Good luck trying to sell this idea to anyone.
     
  15. Blake

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    This thread is laughable.

    Look, Rafer is pretty bad, but START VSPAN?!?!?

    Please

    I live in Dallas now, unfortunately, and this forum is worse than Cowboy fans after losses, and I didn't think that was possible. Congrats :D
     
  16. jakedasnake

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    Yes I believe a 37% 3pt% is much better than a 20.8 3PT% and I really hope that everyone else does. And Rafer is top 5 in the league in attempts with a very solid percentage and I really hope everyone else agrees that this is a solid percentage. I do agree that it would be nice to have someone penetrate and get to the rack and finish at the PG position and if Vspan would play like he did last night I think we could use him. I don't know if he can bring that performance again especially in a closer game.
     
  17. 2rings

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    While I would like to see Billy get a little more time, the stats don't justify the playing time. Here are two links from 82games.com that back that up definitively http://www.82games.com/0607/06HOU4C.HTM and http://www.82games.com/0607/06HOU4D.HTM .

    I will anticipate the next arguement, "his stats look poor because he plays so little and does not have a chnace to showcase what he can do." While I understand this perspective to some extent, I really have a hard time buying it. Look at JLIII's 82games.com stats http://www.82games.com/0607/06HOU1D.HTM . His stats aren't much better, but they are still better. The bottom line is that Billy just isn't ready for extended minutes. Trust me, I can't wait for the day that he is because we certainly aren't getting a lot from Rafer. The hard reality is that Rafer is our best option right now. Hopefully Billy will show more in practice and we will get more from him. I, and I am sure 98% of folks would like nothing more, but the data and what I see on the court just isn't backing that up right now.
     
  18. Sooner423

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    Sadly, the PG solution cannot be found on this team.
     
  19. jakedasnake

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    Ok, and what was the BIGGEST reason we were WINNING just a couple of weeks ago? We have proven we can win a lot of games with Rafer as our starting PG. In the Atlanta game, he had one of his best games 23pts., 9 assists, and 5reb. and we lost to Atlanta. How is that the PG's fault that we lost that game? You act like we have a horrible record w/ Rafer as our starting PG. This is why I don't bash Rafer as much as everyone else. The Lakers have Kobe Bryant and Smush Parker as their starting PG with possibly a better supporting cast and Kobe is arguably a better player than Tmac and we have a better record than them. We have shown that we can win with Rafer as our starting PG. This is a slump we are in because our older guys are showing their age. It was bound to happen.
     
  20. Jerry36

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    I agree 100%. When JVG first put Vspan in the rotation, he shouldn't kept him the rotation. Just like you said it's a little bit to late for that now.
     

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