Peter Vescey is a complete jackass, but if he is correct on this story, I'm just wondering how you can blame the Knicks failures on Steph soley. Eddy Curry isn't playing very well, neither is quentin richardson, neither is jamal crawford, hell neither is anyone. this is not the type of team that larry brown can be successful with. there aren't any guys who can play d, anywhere. steph is just average defensively but some of these other guys are horrible (crawford, richardson, curry). To me Vescey and the Knicks are trying to find a scapegoat for why they suck, and aren't looking at the moron running the team....Isiah Thomas. He constructed this team, with no ability to play defense and with a bunch of guys who take too many stupid shots (richardson and crawford). Before they go and trade their best player who actually does care about winning (something that him and larry brown do have in common), fire the moron who put such a piece of crap team together....Isiah Thomas.
New York Trade Breakdown Outgoing Stephon Marbury 6-2 PG from Georgia Tech 21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes Incoming Moochie Norris 6-1 PG from West Florida 1.3 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 6.5 minutes David Wesley 6-1 SG from Baylor 10.9 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.9 apg in 34.1 minutes Luther Head 6-3 from Illinois No games yet played in 2004/05 Bob Sura 6-5 PG from Florida State 10.3 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 5.2 apg in 31.5 minutes trade accepted Due to New York and Houston being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. New York and Houston had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Oy...I hope nobody suggests a trade to bring him here. His entire career, Marbury's just been one of those guys who puts up sick numbers but rarely wins. EDIT: Never mind...too late.
That team is just laden with cancers. They're gonna need some chemotherapy before all is said and done, and that could involve trading Marbury. But honestly, I don't think that Marbury's responsible for the team's woes right now. Their frontcourt of undersized tweeners, Jerome James (who makes Mark Blount look like Wilt Chamberlain) and Eddy Curry (who doesn't know the meaning of pass and puts the ball on the floor every time he touches it) is, IMO. Also, they have no definite starting five, something that LB had in Detroit. How can a team click when Matt Barnes starts one game, and is on the IL the next?
can someone post the entire article for those of us who dont want to register. either way Starbury is a cancer wherever he goes and teams always do much better after he leaves. example: Minny -> Nets -> Suns he should start wondering why that is? didnt some of the Suns players mention he doesnt pass the ball (Amare/SMarion) unless he absolutley has to. J
I frequently have this fantasy where Isiah Thomas ends up as GM of the Spurs/Mavericks and completely ruins the franchise to the point where the team has to move to Wisconsin or something. Yeah, I know, management in SA and Dallas isn't that stupid, but a guy can dream, can't he?
Isiah Thomas has shown the same savvy he brought to Toronto and Indiana. He couldn't run the Raptors, he couldn't coach the Pacers, he destroyed the (Continental Basketball Association? what was it called?), and now he's taking Madison Square Garden money and throwing it at his problems in NYC. I doubt Marbury is the root of all evil on the Knicks, but he and Larry Brown couldn't lie to themselves for very long: "He's great." "He's great. I have no problem coaching that ball-ho...er, fine example of a point guard."
Bringing Steph back to NYC was a great idea at first, but it just shows that these shoot-first PGs aren't good for winning (Francis, Marbury, B. Davis). Larry Brown knows the importance of having a true PG running the team. When you have knuckle head players like Marbury, Crawford, Q, Curry, MoT, J. James, players that don't know how to play the game right, you're gonna have a losing season.
Larry Brown's style of coaching does not match well with Marbury's style of bball. However, if you are going to point a finger at someone in the Knicks organization, Marbury is at the bottom of that list...there are many people who are more responsible for the Knicks woes. Stephon can play ball, I hope he gets traded to a team that uses him better...it would help my fantasy team.
John Hollinger, ESPN's stats guru, ranks Marbury as the 3rd best PG in the NBA in terms of what he brings to a team. But he got a bad rap when he forced his way out from the T-Woofs. If that makes him a bad guy, you've got to throw T-Mac in that boat too. I don't blame either of them though.
Larry Brown is an excellent coach who knows how to turn a team around to being a competitor. If he says that Marbury needs to go, I'd believe him.
Marbury is a stud, regardless of his ability to play team ball (which is the problem with most new-generation PGs in the league today, and not just him). God I wish we had a guy like TJ Ford, every good team needs one, unless we just let McGrady be the de facto PG of the team...
Not trying to knock Marbury, but the difference is he wanted to be a star and not share the limelight with Garnett and he wanted to be a star in NY. At least in T-Mac's case he got tired of being on sucky teams.
