Personal fouls last night in the NBA

Yeah, it wasn't one of the refs finest moments last nite, just wish the blown calls would have gone in our favor. That goal tend was just just horrible.

 

Last night is one of the reasons I'm having a harder time watching the NBA and basketball in general. I know several people who have been lifelong basketball fans who can't even stand to watch the NBA anymore because of the officiating. It's not a Rockets thing either, it's every single game.

 

I know what you mean...

One word

Consistency

 

Don't EVEN get me started.

 

Seriously shall we unite with fans of other teams and try to make a STAT for the dumb refs? If we can record the number of bad calls of the refs in EVERY NBA game, that will definitely make some noise about improving the quality of NBA refs. It's not that difficult to record the number of bad calls if you watch the whole game. If we can get sufficient basketball fans to join together, it will be possible I think. Or at the very least, we can try to record the NUMBER of bad calls of Rox games first.

Any thoughts?

 

It was consistent...... consistently lopsided.

Every time the Bobcats got the ball to the baseline, the automatic whistle would blow. You'd have thout it was the Lakers out there.

 

I agree last night was brutal with the goaltending and the multiple loose ball fouls called because of a flop. I don't buy into the grand conspiracy theory against the Rockets, but I do think (know) that the 'stars' get the calls. It's always been like that.

Of course the devils advocate would say "play better and you'll start getting calls" but should it be like that?

My Dad used to be a HUGE NBA fan but he only watches Rocket games now even though TNT shows 4 or 5 games a week. I'm starting to do the same thing. It's because of all the fouls called. There's no flow to the games anymore. Too many missed jumpers followed by loose ball fouls under the basket. It's like the refs are rewarding players who flop and punishing players for being aggressive and going after rebounds. Shouldn't it be the other way around?

LET THEM PLAY!! LET THEM PLAY!! LET THEM PLAY!!

 

Are you trying to say that it was the star power of Gerald Wallace and Brevin Knight that cost the Rockets the game last night?

 

The college game is officiated MUCH better than the NBA. I personally think it has to do with some of the NBA's new rules.

 

The new rules stink. Actually the referees interpretation of the new rules stink. They call every touch on the perimeter and do not reward the penetrators enough. Those guys get butchered in the paint a lot of times and no call. Then the offensive rebounder gets the loose ball foul. The only type of penetration that gets any reward is the high wire acts of guys like Dwayne Wade who come in with the dunk. And then again, they don't call enough contact there either. A penetrator like Iverson gets butchered over and over again and rarely get a call under the basket. A post player like Shaq or Yao gets mauled with 2 defenders pushing with both hands, slapping wrists, etc. etc. etc. and nary a call. At the same time on the perimeter, if they touch Iverson, the whistle blows.

It all leads to a whole lot more jump shots and lower shooting percentages and a lot less willingness to drive the ball inside because way too many times the penetrator gets killed and the play goes the other way with no whistle. It is also going to lead to a lot more star and superstar players in this league winding up inactive for more games during the season because of the injuries they sustain with the inside contact.

They need to clean up the inside contact..........period, by whistling it when the defender has anything besides one bent elbow on the post up player. All the pushing, shoving, with hands all over the offensive player.....that's where the quick whistle should be.

They need to get that foul call inside the lower circle when the defender goes straight up right. If the defender goes straight up and he's inside the circle and the penetrator initiates the contact, then let it go. Only call it when the defender reaches or slides underneath, the way the rule is written. But for crying out loud, call all the butcher contact outside of the circle and call it consistently. It just seems backward to me. You gotta be an armed warrior cutting arms off and bowling through defender to get to the bucket because there will be no call, then when you get there, all you gotta do is look for the biggest defender who is planted inside the lower circle and make sure you hit him on the way up for your shot/dunk/layup and bingo the magic 3 pointer.

And then adjust the perimeter foul calling to impeding the dribbler/ball handler and quit whistling every little incidental touch out there that has nothing to do with the play and has no effect on the dribbler/offensive team or play being ran. Where the offensive player should be protected on the perimeter and the foul should be called tightly is when they are in shooting motion. Strangly enough, they miss too many of those calls while they are blowing every touch on the dribbler. Classic TMac play, upfake the defender, then go up for the shot. They call it about half the time. The other half, the shot is an airball for some "unknown" reason and the play goes the other way.

The refereeing is just way too inconsistent.

 

I entirely agree. I believe they should add two referrees to each game - one on each baseline. All they'd do is ref the baseline.

Imagine the changes that would cuase. All the pushing and shoving under the hoop could be regulated. What about the "Finley was out of bounds" calls? Gone. Adn the other refs on the floor could focus on the back-court and midrange calls.

 

So are you saying that if the 1 goaltending had been called, the rest of the game would have transpired exactly the same way? Don't you think if Charlotte was behind due to the goaltending being properly called, they would have played different (e.g. fouling on purpose, taking 3 pointers, etc.)?

Wouldn't you agree that the entire game would have played out differently and no one knows what would have happened if a call was changed?

 

I've got it!

For every bad call, we send a threatening letter to that referee's family!

They'll cave in under immense pressure in no time.

 

Bring back the OLD Illegal Defense!!!

 

We've been screwed by the refs all the time. For some reason, the refs just hate the Rockets. Although they do a equally bad job officiating other teams, it always look to me they are especially tough on the Rockets.

 

Just go back to the 1997 era rules. No 5-second backdown call, no zone defense, no rule against hand checking, the game was great then, now it is all based on perimeter players getting ticky-tack fouls.

 

I don't think adding a baseline ref is going to help. The first thing is NBA have to use some sort of punishment for bad refs. I swear some of them are just plain bad. I witness first hand how a ref can allow all the shoving and pushing inside and with the good position he has, he has to be blind or close his eys to not see it, he just won't call it. It's deliberate bad refereeing against the Rockets. Guys are allowed so much leeway to basically wrestle Yao inside, it's any wonder Yao won't turn mad and deck somebody. As soon as Yao fights back and give it just little power move (ala Shaq), the defender did not even flop, and ref immediately call an offensive foul on Yao.

 

The rule changes were horrible. The NBA should be about seeing superhuman talents do superhuman things. Instead, they force them to play 4 corners.
Gee, thanks, Jerry Colangelo. Why aren't you dead? Remind me. God must be polishing his thunderbolts for a particularly spectacular strike.

 

That may be true, but it sure would've been nice for them to make that extremely easy call.