Perfect Jumper

Hayes has been making a lot of progress with his FT. That's all he needs to improve at. No coach in the NBA will call for a play for Hayes to do a jumper. His rebounding skills are enough.

 

Enough? Hayes is enough to be a backup to a real PF, which is what he should be until he can make a decent attempt at an offensive game.

 

If Hayes can hone his offense into Haslem. He would be great. I am curious to know if they are even working on a jumper for him.

 

From the bits and pieces of articles here and there, they are working on his shot form. Before the season they were working on his free throws though too, and yall know what those look like.

Chuck is the type of player who will listen and try to do exactly what you tell him, and he will work hard to accomplish what you ask of him. I don't know how much time they can dedicate during the season to completely changing his shooting form, but I am sure it will be a priority at this point for him because if he's going to be on the court he has to produce now. He could get away with not being a threat before, but the team can't have someone on the court with that liability now with already too many holes as there is.

I don't think that perfect jumper thing would really help, as someone said above he needs to get the motion of a smooth shot first.

 

First, voodoo doctor

Now, AS SEEN ON TV

We are so desperate.

 

How in the world has he not developed that motion as of yet? It's not like he just picked up a basketball for the first time a few weeks ago. He's been playing basketball probably most of his life. Does he have a broken arm or something, like Ronnie Brewer?

There have been players with very strange looking jumpers, but they continue to shoot them that way because it works. But whatever Chuck is doing doesn't work, at all. So it's really baffling that he hasn't corrected it by now. For a guy who's apparently a very hard worker who's always trying to improve, it just doesn't make any sense.

 

It's not part of his game. He's a PF, whom, up 'til now hasn't needed a 16 ft. jumper in his arsenal. He's there for rebounding and hustle. Standing 16 ft. away from the basket and shooting won't help the team in that sense. His FT shooting was a priority though because he gets fouled every now and then cutting through the lane so they started to work on it.

I'm sure if he's needed to, they'll really work on his shot, but that probably hasn't been a priority for him. It might be now because T-Mac and Yao are out but up until this point it hasn't. Maybe they start working on it now, who knows.

Like I said, it's not part of his game, it's like asking Juwan Howard to shoot 3's now. Or maybe he just can't do it. I'm sure they've tried to teach Shaq FT shooting his entire career but he just can't do it.

Those are the only reasons I can think of that would explain why he hasn't come along with his J.

 

The only way for him to become a REAL PF, is to grow 3 more inches taller which I don't think is possible.

 

The Perfect Jumper. But if Chuck Hayes does use this, how can he box out and position himself so damn perfectly for the offensive rebound? What I want is for him to improve his layups first, the shots that he attempts most. Also, when Chuck Hayes gets his jumper right and shoots the 16ft shot, can you realy think of anybody who will rebound the ball well except for Yao? Alston for the rebound? Battier? Tracy? He should stick the paint and that's where he should stay. BTW, I do not want to see him attempt the shooting method he is using now, reminds me of a kindergarten pupil mimicking Shawn Marion.

 

Now that Yao is out we will see more of Juwan and less of Chuck. When Both Yao and Tmac play, Chuck can still be reliable, because even though nobody is within 10 feet of him, they can't clog up the lane. Now that Yao is out, opponents will park it in the lane, double team Tmac and leave Chuck wide open daring him to shoot. A lot of Tmac/Juwan pick and pop

 

Exactly. They should make him practice layups in all sorts of angle under the basket. And get Mutombo to be the defender.

 

first off, I think a midrange J would for Chuck would help the team, but I really dont think it's a priority for us right now. there are several other players on this team with much worse weaknesses that need to be improved. take for example, JHO, my only hope is to see him make a pass without faking 600 times at the same direction before it. it just pisses me off, Battier makes a great cut to the basket and he is wideopen, JHO fakes a pass to his direction, just to have a defender cover him and he changes his mind. another example would be teaching Luther Head not to drive to the basket byhimself when 3 big men are right under the basket waiting to block his shot. here's another one, teach Luther Head to shoot midrange J's or tell him not to shoot them at all. he is a good 3 pt shooter, no doubt, but he sucks when he shoots his ugly looking, off balance, Jordan-like fadeaway midrange J. the guys shoots a better % from 3pt line than his 2 pt field goals! oh one more thing, teach John Lucas to pass the ball early and not keep showing off his dribbling skills for 20 seconds then pass it to an underpressure JHO to make a great post move.

now I just want to say this: I would take Chuck Hayes like he is over most of today's PF (except Superstars) and of course over JHO. the guy is just great, he is the best effort player on this team slightly ahead of (or equal to) Battier. his rebounds and hustle is more than enough for me, and his ability to catch a 100 mile-per-hour fast ball from McGrady is unbelievable. actually, seeing him cursing when he gets called to the bench makes him one of my favorite players. I remember Stromile Swift used to smile when JVG pulls him out of the game. that's the difference between a winner and a loser

as for this perfect Jumper thing, I really dont think it can help him. he needs to fix his form and try to time his release with his feet coming off the ground rather than taking a "jumpshot". because he seems to double clutch when he does his jumpshot and that takes a lot of strength away from his shot. what I recommend is the "better basketball" video for shooting. it really helped me improve my shot by adjusting my form. it's really amazing how little adjustments to your shot can make such a huge difference.

 

Yodel, you work for perfectjumper.com or something? What Chuck Hayes needs is a psychiatrist, homey's got a hitch in his release like Barkley's golf swing.

 

Then why is his form on free throws broken as well? He has a crazy hitch in his shot.

And any player who's been playing basketball for a while should have some sort of decent jumper. At least a 12 footer. When you're a kid, you should practice everything.

 

I went to the last grizz game and saw chuck shooting nothing but midrange jumpers in the gym you can see from the street he was down there for 30 + mins pre game shooting

 

Chuck historically hasn't been a bad free throw shooter... in college he was right around 73%. Not great but not bad either. The hitch that you see now he developed late in his junior year and where it came from I couldn't tell you. Believe me there were times in his senior year that I wanted to drive to Lexington and find out who put it there and correct them!!

As far as the one really bad jumper we saw last week it was partially the shot clock and partially him hesitating because he knew he wasn't "supposed" to shoot from out there. At least that's my guess.

I know that he can shoot a jumper with the correct form, I've seen him do it numerous times, but somehow in the process of working on other things he has a huge hesitation in his shot now. I have no doubt that they will/are working on it with him.

Don't give up on him yet yall, he will continue to do the hustle things and figure out what's wrong with his shot (hopefully very soon)... he's not the kind to give up so don't give up on him.

 

$199 freaking dollars for a piece of molded plastic?!?!?! That thing is a joke right?

 

Are you expecting a golden ring?

If you want to seriously learn how to shoot the right way, you can practice with an IMAGINARY ring.

 

If you want to seriously learn how to shoot the right way, you can practice with an IMAGINARY ring.