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People don't realize how championship teams are made

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Alirules, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. Alirules

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    Everyone is so unhappy with the Rockets offseason manuevers, except me. I see something that few of u are witnessing. A championship team is being assembled here. Why?
    I have lived in LA the last 10 years and saw how the Lakers were built from ground up into a dynasty. Shaq and Kobe was the major step. But small pieces were added. They got rid of more talented players like Eddie Jones and Van Exel for players like Ron Harper, Derek Fisher, Rick Fox. The Rockets are doing the same thing like not trading James, Gay, Swift for players like Alston and Battier.
    The work is not done but the direction is fabulous.
     
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    Somehow i dont think Shane, Head, and Alston are as good as Fox, Fisher, Harper.......
     
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    our coach prides his team on defense, defense will keep you in the game but wont win you it
     
  4. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    What are you smoking? They are as good, if not better. I believe in us. You are either with the Rockets and all the manuevers they made this offseason or your against them.
     
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    head could become a fisher and i would say battier is better than fox. harper was old
     
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    Tell that to Detroit, San Antonio, and even to a lesser extent Miami.
     
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    Can you be against the manuevers and still for the team ? :D
     
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    Battier is clearly better than Fox..
    But what fox brought to the game was his dirty defense, his annoying hair style and his ego & attitude that people cant stand. What does that has anything to do with winning a game? Try to play against someone like that... it will affect your game.
     
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    He also brought Vanessa ;)
     
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    But T-Mac is no Kobe. Yao at his prime is not not as dominant as Shaq at his prime. :(
     
  11. Sleepy

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    We have seen championships made here as well and this isnt the way to make it.
     
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    The part that really got me was "A championship team is being assembled here." I don't buy that at all. So far, our roster really hasn't been upgraded from the past 2 years. Losing Swift, Gay, and now Bogans with only Battier to show for it doesn't really equal a championship caliber team. Our roster has no real depth, not much athleticism, and I'm not sure we even have the talent to play well defensively. There are plenty of reasons why Rockets Fans are mad.


     
  13. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    No! How can you question your Rockets in a time like this. Van Gundy even said "I am a war-time coach". If you question the Rockets manuevers you question the core principles of their orginization!
     
  14. Sleepy

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    Screw Gundy. He is part of the reason this team is in the position its in. He and CD have no loyalty. Tired of this crap.
     
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    This statement shows a complete ignorance of Rockets history. Please explain what you mean.
     
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    The Lakers won despite their supporting cast, not because of it. Mainly they won because they had Shaq in his prime, who was an absolute MONSTER. The Lakers also played both ends of the floor, instead of just defense.
     
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    Lakers Championship Roster:
    1999-2000: Shaq, Kobe, AC Green, Ron Harper, John Sally n Brain Shaw.
    2000-2001: Shaq, Kobe, Fisher, H. Grant and about the same roster as above.
    2001-2002: Shaq, Kobe, Fisher, Fox, Mitch Richmond, Samaki Walker, Hunter, Horry.

    Rox Current Roster: Yao, Jho, Battier, Tmac, Alston

    Not much difference in role players between Lakers n Rox. Fisher is a better shooter than Alston but Alston is better passer. Battier n Fox are almost alike. Lakers had veteran PFs in Green, Sally, Grant, Walker n Foster and the Rox have JHO.

    The difference is the COACH!!! I really think Rox are going more towards what Lakers did is surround Shaq n Kobe with veteran players and it worked in addition to great coaching by PJ.

    If Yao dominates inside n Tmac becomes unstopable(which he can) and both stay healthy and show leadership, we can easily win championship with the current team.

    If you also look at Miami Heat championship roster: Shaq, Wade, Haslem, Walker, Payton, Mourning n Williams. Most impact players were Wade n Shaq and they were surrounded by decent players n veterans.
     
  18. Sleepy

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    Sorry. CD has no loyalty. The trades he has made over time is the reason this team is a lottery team. Do I have to name the trades? Mike James. That is a reason why he didnt pick Houston.
     
  19. Alirules

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    Well if our superstars don't play beyond like special players, then we will never win a championship. it dosen't matter how good your supporting cast is ala Sacramento ( last 5 years) if your superstars dosen't deliver their greatness, then nothing is won
     
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    Horry won 2 with LA.
     

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