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[PBN] insight into McGrady's desire to "shut it down"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketshopeful, Nov 25, 2008.

  1. rocketshopeful

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    lengthy read, some of it rehash, some of it new I believe. Please lock if repost

    http://www.probasketballnews.com/mejia_112508.html



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    By Tony Mejia
    Pro Basketball News

    On the night after Vince Carter silenced Raptors fans with an unforgettable performance last week, Tracy McGrady found himself in Orlando, where the venom isn't quite as hostile as it is for "Cousin" up in Canada.

    Still, there was a part of McGrady that found himself a little jealous of his older cuz. Not about all the attention he still gets, but how he's able to handle it.

    "At least my boos have turned into a lot of cheers when I go back (to Toronto). Get over it, man. You've got to get over that stuff. Fans are bitter. If they had any sense, you don't really want to piss a guy off that could get your team
    for 40," said McGrady. "It's not a good thing to boo a guy that
    can score, that's a great player. In that mode, you can get real
    focused for one night. That's some food for thought for fans
    that want to boo a guy that's been traded away from their team.
    It's not a good thing."

    In Orlando, where McGrady is still vilified after wanting out
    earlier this decade, he couldn't muster the response he
    would've liked. Ideally, he would've emulated his cousin
    again and torched the Magic with his full arsenal of skills. Realistically, he was only able to play decoy and knock down open jumpers. That's all his body currently allows him to do. His knees are shot, and he's not trying to hide it.

    "I'm buying into our system and just becoming a guy that defers, not being a guy that takes 25 shots like I did when I was here (in Orlando). I told the guys, I'm not trying to be that guy that I was four or five years ago. Those days are over," McGrady said."I'm still not happy with the way I'm playing and the way I feel. I told myself I was going to give this road trip to see how things were going to go and then talk to everybody and make a decision. For me, I'm really not going to be measured in the regular season. I've had unbelievable regular seasons. For me, it's just the playoffs, being healthy and pushing my team to that next level."

    The road trip, a perfect one (3-0), is now over. McGrady played his role to perfection, doing what he could to aid the cause. End of the day, he'd prefer to sit back and get healthy.

    When at full strength, he's one of the few guys that people who understand the game would put in the same breath as Kobe Bryant and LeBron James as far as talent is concerned. Now? While still effective, he knows he's a shell of himself and covets a chance to regain his strength.

    "Is it easier to take time off (as a veteran)? Well, yeah, if you really need it, which I think I need it," said McGrady, who's averaged just 12.4 points over the last 10 games after a six-point night against Miami on Monday. "I felt like I had to be out here at the start of the season since our schedule is so tough, so I didn't want us to get in a hole, but looking forward, we have enough talent on this team so if I was to sit out, and get Shane back, I think we'd be fine.

    "My mentality is try not to play the whole season the way I am now. So if it takes some sitting out, that's what I have to do. I'd just feel confident in my team that they would be able to withstand this, get us some wins and get into the playoffs without me."

    McGrady might sound like a guy who wants to sit for most of the season, but that's not going to happen, either. Head coach Rick Adelman wants him to play through a little bit of pain, understand his limitations and aid the cause wherever he can. That's not what McGrady wants, but that's what professionals do. Adelman, old school all the way, whole-heartedly believes that.

    Somewhere, there's a happy medium. Be it a few weeks, a month or maybe more, whenever the Rockets and McGrady come together on a compromise, expect the perennial All-Star to sit. You can even start the countdown to him shutting it down. Battier hopes to play Wednesday. If there's anybody that can identify with what McGrady is experiencing, it's him. He's been out all season with a foot injury.

    "You realize that there aren't any heroic monuments erected for anybody for coming back in November. You have to be smart because it's such a long season," said Battier. "Although you want to get off to a good start right now, I don't want to jeopardize my chances of helping this team in April and hopefully May and June, which is when this is more important. Obviously, I make a much better player than I do an NBA fan, but with my injury, patience is paramount. I need to exercise that and not get ahead of myself and not do further damage."

    Battier has been practicing and is now ready to contribute. Once he gets back in his groove, expect McGrady to turn up the heat on the organization by asking to sit. In his mind, he's done what he set out to do, buying time for the Rockets until Battier returned and newcomers Ron Artest and Brent Barry got acclimated. The Rockets lead the Southwest Division and have the second-best mark in the Western Conference, trailing only the Lakers.

    "Look how the Lakers are playing, unbelievable basketball right now, off to a great start. You don't want to be one of those teams floating down there at the No. 7 or
    No. 8 spot. Face a team like them, face a team like -- I know a lot of people are sleeping on San Antonio, but when you think about it you've got two of their best guys getting rest right now and they're just holding on. When those two guys, Ginobili and Parker, get back, you're going to have some fresh guys. They're going to be pretty tough," McGrady said. "You want to put yourself in a great position. We've found that out in the past. Playoff seeding is definitely crucial."

    That little nugget is indicative of the variety of things floating through McGrady's mind as he comes up on a crucial decision. He's wary of getting too comfortable and sacrificing an opportunity to get the highest playoff seed possible, but at the same time, he understands how much the long NBA schedule can take out of you. He fears guys like Ginobili and Parker being fresher.

    Having proven all that he can prove, with only playoff success eluding him, McGrady doesn't want to sacrifice a postseason by trying to be a hero. He'd rather trust his teammates to get him to where he can really help them.

    "I always ask him, I always say, 'Tracy, what do I got to do? What do you want? Do I got to step it up,'" Artest said. "If he's alright, he says 'Ron, I've got it.' If he's not, he says 'Ron, I need you to step it up.' I say 'ok' and then I take the shots. We're doing the best we can with the situation that we're in right now.

    "We need to roll off a lot of wins so we can get T-Mac rest. That's not news to us. We'll pick him up if we need to. We definitely understand that it's a marathon, not a sprint. We're not going to win a championship tomorrow."

    It sounds like his teammates have McGrady's back as far as taking time off to get right goes. You don't have to be a keen observer to see that he's nowhere near 100 percent. No one is going to lose any respect for him not playing through pain, because he's already done so for much of the early part of the season to ensure that Houston got off to a good start.

    Hopefully the tug-of-war between management and McGrady doesn't get too hairy. Any agreement they can come to on how long T-Mac can rest his weary knees will aid to preserve the good will generated by a solid start.

    Artest is right. You don't win championships tomorrow.

    You can lose them, though.

    McGrady seems to have his heart set on ensuring that doesn't happen. He knows his legacy is at stake. Like he said, he wants no part of gutting it out through a full season in his current state.

    It's not good for anybody. A break is coming.


    Tony Mejia is senior writer of Pro Basketball News. He can be reached at mejia@probasketballnews.com.


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  2. ico4498

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    thanks for posting!

    hope the rest will help.
     
  3. blender

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    Nice read. Thanks.

    I actually think this upcoming stretch might be a good time to give McGrady some rest. You don't want to underestimate any team, but for the next three and a half weeks, the competition level isn't as high as it has been.

    Here's the schedule

    Nov. 29: vs. San Antonio
    Nov. 30: at Denver
    Dec. 3: vs. LA Clippers
    Dec. 5: vs. Golden State
    Dec. 8: at Memphis
    Dec. 9: vs. Atlanta
    Dec. 12: at Golden State
    Dec. 13: at LA Clippers
    Dec. 16: vs. Denver
    Dec. 19: vs. Sacramento
    Dec. 20: at Minnesota
    Dec. 22: at New Jersey
    Dec. 23: at Cleveland

    Without McGrady but with Battier, the Rockets could definitely come out of this stretch with a winning record. We'd probably lose some, but if it means a healthier McGrady later on, it would be worth it.
     
  4. rocketsregle

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    Well it's obvious his teammates fully support his decision. Yao in Orlando alluded to stepping it up for McGrady and now Artest. If they and management don't have no problem with it, I think fans shouldn't have a problem with it either. Hopefully this strategy of shutting it down for a while actually works.
     
  5. bullardfan

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    great news! i hope tmac can recover properly and come back after all-star break for another 22 or more win streak. and maybe we can finally add the championship to that.
     
  6. BlakeB

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    Yeah, this is both good and bad news as I see it. On the one hand... we always really need Tracy McGrady-even if it is still very early in the season. I'm not sure of the games ahead in the next month or so, but if the schedule is as tough as it has been we're gonna need all the help we can get to keep up the winning. T-mac, even when he isn't scoring well, keeps defenses honest; he's a playmaker, a leader on the court, and a good defender-for how ever long he sits that presence on the court will be missed.

    On the other hand, if this needs to be done now would be the time. If we did have to lose some games due to T-Mac's absence, now, and not down the stretch or in the playoffs, would be the time to do it. We'll probably lose at least one or two games if Tracy sits a couple of weeks or more; however, that trade off becomes worth it if he's able to come back and be 100%.

    We've got a pretty good team, and with Shane coming back he'll be able to pick up T-mac's slack (and then some) as far as defense goes. Not to mention that this Rockets team has more players capable of scoring, bench and starters alike, than any team in recent memory. Assuming Yao and Ron can stay healthy, Tracy's offensive output is picked up elsewhere, and T-Mac doesn't sit for longer than a month, maybe a month and a half, I think having Tracy take time off to get healthy is a good long term solution for this team.

    If McGrady can come back at or near 100%, put up numbers more like what we've seen in years past, and take over games when he needs to (and like he used to) I say let Tracy get healthy... and let's hope this is the solution to the McGrady health problem this year.
     
  7. BigM

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    clearly mcgrady's not right and if it takes sitting him a month or two to fully heal then we have to do it. we have a legit chance at winning a championship if we can get him to atleast last years level, but if he hobbles the entire season going into the playoffs i think our ceiling is a couple series wins max.

    yao is coming around and artest is fitting in more. that's plenty to withstand mcgrady being out and still maintaing a homecourt playoff position.
     
  8. jackie_moon23

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    I'm really all for it...hell if anything it might even be a good opportunity for Artest to
    gel in with this team. If you guys remember, when Tmac went out last season for those
    few weeks, the team chemistry really took a jump, and when Tracy came back the chemistry
    was still there. I 100% support giving him some time, but not too much. Maybe something
    in the 2-3 weeks neighborhood. Get right Tracy! We're gonna need you strong!
     
  9. durvasa

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    The team doctors differ. They say he needs to continue to play to regain strength.

    If they're right, then we have to question T-Mac's commitment to the team. If they're wrong, we have to start questioning their competence.
     
  10. TheGreat

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    McGrady needs to shut it down for a month, this will not be only good for the season, but also his career.
     
  11. Zacatecas

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    The team has talent even with McGrady sitting out. And with Battier coming back, the defense just got that much better!

    I've been irking to see Battier and Artest give opposing swing players fits. And with Yao clogging up the middle it will be cool to see.

    You rotate Landry, Scola, and Hayes depending on defensive matchups.

    Hopefully Barry will find his range.

    And Brooks is getting better with each game.


    This is a talented squad.
     
  12. ShadyMcGrady

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    QFT. Either we as fans don't know something or one of the sides is in the wrong...
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    What's kind of interesting is that, if you believe what Adelman and the medical staff are saying, Tracy doesn't really need to sit to recover-- they think he can play his way back to full strength, and will take the 70% version of McGrady out there in the mean time because he still helps the team.

    It seems that Tracy sitting out may have to do with (1) don't want to be out there on the court playing below his usual standard while working his way back, and preferring instead to recover in private, and (2) perhaps a somewhat paranoid fear (because this is his first major knee surgery) that he could hurt it more while playing.

    If this is the case, his return will happen not necessarily when he's back to full strength (whatever that means), but either (1) when he feels right enough to play, or (2) when the team needs him again due to some random injury.

    If sitting out helps Tracy clear his head, good.
     
  14. TheGreat

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    Tracy doesnt look confident out there at all. He knows hes averaging only 15 points (worst since 1999). Hes most likely to sit out.
     
  15. bucket

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    My impression has been that they've said he isn't risking further injury to the knee by playing, not that playing games is the quickest or most effective way for him to regain his strength.

    To be honest, that wouldn't even make sense to me. I find it hard to believe that playing basketball would be better for the knee than targeted therapy and exercise, since McGrady can make any physical motion in training that he can make in a game (and then some). Let's not inject undue controversy to the situation.
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I love T-mac, I think he gets a bad rap for a superstar as he does a lot well.

    But I have to be honest, he's clearly somewhat a bit of a headcase when it comes to his body and physical performance.

    Let him take it down a bit. Come off the bench. It worked very well last year. He got to take some time off, and presto - he played magnificantly down the strecth.

    Let him do it again. We have so much more and the schedule is conducive for it - almost as if the NBA wanted the Rockets to have it easy for a while to rest their old man legs and not have Yao T-mac hurt by playoff time.

    I say, let T-mac do what he wants, take time off....go to camp whatakanda, maybe visit Darfur, get mentally healthy, and comeback Jan 1st just like last year!
     
  17. durvasa

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    I believe Jonathan Feigen has said that the team doctors feel he's best served continuing to play and gradually building up strength. Obviously the Rockets have an interest in him not missing games, given our history without him playing, so maybe that's spin.
     
  18. bucket

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    Jonathan Feigen has pointed out in his blog that it would probably not be a good idea to have Tmac sit on the bench after warming up because his knee will tighten up. It's probably better to have him start the game and get his minutes in a couple of big chunks.
     
  19. Precision340

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    great news.. no use in wearing out his knee further.. it's kinda sad though.. it seems like this could be the last year(s) for him playing considering that rest may not fix his knee
     
  20. bucket

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    That's what I was referring to. Feigen's blog has paraphrased the organization as saying that he can recover by playing without running the risk of further injury, and that he would do so in order to help the team win in the meantime. They did not say that that would recover more quickly by playing in games than he could by training outside of games, so I don't feel that there's a conflict between McGrady's statements and those of the team. Clearly, if McGrady can contribute effectively at the cost of a slight slowing of his recovery, then playing him is probably a wise move. However, if all he can do is stand at the three point arc and wait for the ball, he might be better served to take time off and focus on what he needs to do physically to get his strength back.
     

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