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Paul Begala describes Obama supporters as “eggheads and African-Americans”

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  1. bigtexxx

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    ....and that those groups alone wouldn't win it for the liberals in November.

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/clinton-touts-white-support/?hp

    May 8, 2008, 10:08 am
    Clinton Touts White Support
    By Kate Phillips

    As if the divisions between race and gender in the Democratic Party hadn’t been further exposed through Tuesday night’s exit polls — and by a very heated exchange on CNN between Donna Brazile and Paul Begala, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s interview with USA Today on Wednesday is further mining those tense depths.
    “I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,” she said in the interview, citing an article by The Associated Press.
    It “found how Senator Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”
    “There’s a pattern emerging here,” she said.
    While she said her remarks weren’t meant to be divisive, they’re already whipping around the Internet. “These are the people you have to win if you’re a Democrat in sufficient numbers to actually win the election. Everybody knows that,” she said in the interview. (Hint, hint, message to the superdelegates still undeclared.)

    In Indiana alone, six in 10 white voters went for Mrs. Clinton, where she narrowly won the primary.
    Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, told the newspaper that Mr. Obama had made inroads in Tuesday’s contests. And he added that her comments “are not true and frankly disappointing.”
    On Tuesday night, we mentioned the dustup between two Democratic pundits, Ms. Brazile and Mr. Begala, who engaged in a prime-time debate about the coalitions being built by Mr. Obama or Mrs. Clinton. Mr. Begala, a Clinton supporter, said the party could not win in November with just “eggheads and African-Americans,” that the party could not ignore white middle-class voters. Ms. Brazile, who said she was not “undecided but undeclared” when it came to her choice for a candidate, shot back that Mr. Begala’s notions were dividing the party. (And that she’d chugged down many a beer with Joe and Jane “six-pack” in an effort to woo white voters.)
     
    #1 bigtexxx, May 8, 2008
  2. mc mark

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    You should hear what he calls republicans.
     
    #2 mc mark, May 8, 2008
  3. Rocket River

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    I wonder where the African American EggHeads are in all this

    Rocket RIver
     
    #3 Rocket River, May 8, 2008
  4. weslinder

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    He's pretty much sewn up the nomination. :D
     
    #4 weslinder, May 8, 2008
  5. A_3PO

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    Clinton Inc. is a pathetic animal on it's deathbed, kicking and screaming. Her losing this primary is like the Dem party undergoing a painful exorcism.
     
    #5 A_3PO, May 8, 2008
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    Interesting comment in the WSJ today -- if the African American voters had voted in similar proportions to what they typically do for a leading Democratic candidate, instead of the over 90% lean towards Obama, then Hillary wins this race going away. So don't tell me race doesn't factor into the equation here. And given that Obama has not actively campaigned for the black vote, these were 'freebies' for Obama. I'll say it again -- for the votes you actually have to earn, Hillary blows him out.

    I say this with a smile on my face and an explosive flatulent on my sphincter, but the Dems are about to shoot themselves in the foot by nominating Snobama.
     
    #6 El_Conquistador, May 8, 2008
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    How many votes has Obama gotten this primary season compared to McCain?
     
    #7 FranchiseBlade, May 8, 2008
  8. Rocket River

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    Do you think the republican can admit
    that Hillary, Edwards and Richardson, etc
    were
    Superior competition to the random collection of Crap that McCain ran against?

    Stomping midgets don't make you a Giant

    Rocket River
     
    #8 Rocket River, May 8, 2008
  9. Major

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    Race definitely was a factor. Lots of voters refused to vote for Obama because he was black. Take Ohio, for example, where the 20% people who said the race of the candidate was important favored Hillary 59-39, while the other 80% who said race wasn't important only favored her 53-45. She expanded her margin based on the votes of people who put race into the equation.

    And yet, despite having to fight that uphill battle, he still won the nomination. Even more impressive when looked at through that lens - thanks for bringing it up.
     
    #9 Major, May 8, 2008
  10. Bandwagoner

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    "That lens" meaning a logically flawed number system that makes use of no accounting and just assumes one number is larger than the other.

    Nice math.
     
    #10 Bandwagoner, May 8, 2008
  11. Major

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    That number includes ALL the people in Ohio (black or white) who said that race was important to them. Of that group, the number of people picking the white candidate was greater than the number picking the black candidate - not only in absolute numbers but also relative to the "baseline" voter that didn't vote on race. Therefore, the white candidate benefitted more from racial preferences. What exactly is not clear about that?
     
    #11 Major, May 8, 2008
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    Paul is still bitter about finishing second to a fictional character for the President Stu Co at UT Austin.
     
    #12 Mulder, May 9, 2008
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    McCain supporters are bunch of rednecks and hillbillies.
     
    #13 Baqui99, May 9, 2008
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    I can't take Begala seriously because all I can think of is Chris Kattan's impression of him on SNL.
     
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    lol Baqui's obsession with rednecks continues. Did a redneck steal your girlfriend back in your past? Is that still bothering you? Regardless, your inferiority complex is pretty humorous
     
    #15 bigtexxx, May 9, 2008
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    Fixed it for ya! Now go back to watching NASCAR.
     
    #16 Baqui99, May 9, 2008
  17. bigtexxx

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    lol awesome

    I don't have any problems with black people.

    now get back to work before I fire you, young man
     
    #17 bigtexxx, May 9, 2008
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    Your posting history says otherwise.

    Obama picks up 9 more supers today and affectively takes the lead in that metric too.
     
    #18 mc mark, May 9, 2008
  19. vlaurelio

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    as long as they don't run for president
     
    #19 vlaurelio, May 9, 2008
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