Well, he said 'are doing.' There are plenty of 'jihadists' doing silly, wacko, and violent things right now. Where are these 'mujahideen/legitimate resistance fighters defending their lands/people from occupiers and tyrants' of which you speak?
As far as I know, that is not correct. Kosher food is not halal just like halal food is not kosher. Halal calls for a prescribed prayer before sacrifice and a particular way of sacrifice. Jews do not say the same prayer nor do they sacrifice their meat in the same way.
MadMax was asking why it bothered tinman that other people ate a certain food that was prescribed by their religion. to which you made a comment about jihadists.
Resistance to any occupation anywhere around the world is legitimate, although some of them use the wrong methods (i.e. terrorism). It's an accepted part of internatinal law: the right to defend one's self/land/people.
Pam should be doing ads for Dow Chemical. We had roy d. elton to worry about the world's sheep. (and to keep the sheep worried! ) Keep D&D Civil.
Er, no. I'm not even sure what you're referring to when you say 'accepted part of international law,' but unless I miss my guess its WAY off course to say resistance to any occupation anywhere is legitimate. Germans resisting Allied occupation of Germany would not have been 'legitimate' under international law, for example. In this instance with jihadists the reference was certainly toward the more radical and violent forms of resistance, so again to your answer - no - that is not correct. And of course you've yet to answer my question. Since you've drawn this distinction between jihadists and mujahideen, WHERE are these mujahideen you speak of?
German occupation was sanctioned due to the fact that Germany was an aggressor nation. Resistance to illegal occupation is sanctioned by the UN; refer to Resolutions 2625 and 2908. Armed resistence -- or as you refer to it "violent" resistance -- is sanctioned under certain circumstances. In this case of Fatty's use for the word "Jihadist", I was attempting to educate Fatty on the meaning of "Jihadist" (which is wrong usage, btw, it's called "Mujahideen" not "Jihadists", which means "holy warriors"), which is a general term used to describe Muslim soldiers, not only refer to terrorists and the like, which I am assuming he's referring to. "Mujahideen" is not synonymous with "terrorist", that was what I was trying to say. There is a difference or distinction between "Mujahid" and "Jihadist": Jihadist is a Western term that is often used in a derogatory manner to describe various Muslim militant groups around the world; 'Mujahideen' is an Arabic word, a plural of 'Mujahid', meaning a holy warrior or soldier, which is a purely Islamic concept. The term "Jihadists" is an entirely Western term, sort of vague as to whom it refers to, but has been widely used in a negative manner to refer to terrorists and other militant groups. The Mujahideen is just a label, it describes those fighters who resist foreign occupation; it's an Islamic concept.
Muslims are NOT allowed to eat non halal food. Muslims are allowed to eat from the people of the book, ie the christians and the jews, and that is referring to the meat that they cut. Zabiha is the method of how an animal is cut in islam, once an animal is zabiha, it is without a doubt, halal(except for pigs, dogs, cats, lions, tigers, etc etc) However, when there is non zabiha meat, ie it is not cut by a muslim, it is not necessarily haraam, it can be eaten if cut by the people of the book. Any other food, is usally all good. But there are many things that are not kosher but maybe halal. And if im not mistaken, it works the other way around too. So no, not all kosher items are halal, and not all hala items are kosher. close, but not the same.
so whats wrong with sweet and sour pork?? what about the people of the stick? (chop) why are they buying lambs from australia? aren't there any lambs in the middle east? what bout pork? or buffalo or turkey?
Come on guys, religion telling you what you can and can't eat...... Lent, Kosher, Hatal.... I am speechless, controlling issues anyone? DD
pig is one of the filthiest animals. you realize that most of the middle east is freaking DESERT. they dont really have farms and stuff, and even if they do its not enough to supply them all. They freaking import from sudan, india, and anywhere else. australia's as good as anywhere to get it. and its really not funny how you keep throwing in pork after erry sentence. Its not offensive to anyone, its just damn annoying. and we get turkey in the ME just liek you all do, sliced and packed up.
controlling or submission? da da..you don't have to subscribe to the logic. no one is asking you to give up any food you like. they're just asking you to show some common courtesy and a little respect for decisions made by others. particularly when they don't impact you one iota.
Max, It is not discourteous to question the zaniness of having food choices given to you by a religion. And, yes, I concur that it is a matter of choice. What is wrong with questioning the logic of that choice? Not discourteous at all....and it does impact me......what if I want some Lamb, or pork, or Fish ? The prices of those are impacted by the various dietary constraints.... DD
AGAIN I ask where the Mujahideen specifically you are talking about in today's world. The actions Fatty refers to are pretty clearly NOT sanctioned by international law, any international body, or anything else. You would have a hard time bringing any international accord's standards and what 'jihadists' are doing together. Please point out specifically where the UN has sanctioned violence be jihadists in today's world, or by mujahideen if you want to conceed that none of the extremist violence is sanctioned (whether the UN is the arbiter of international law is a dubious claim in itself of course, but let's skin one cat at a time). Uh, maybe that's why he didn't say Mujahideen, lol. Because he was referring the nutcases blowing themselves up, chopping people's heads off etc. Those 'holy warriors,' or 'jihadists' are those most loudly committing these actions. Hence I see no problem using the term jihadists. Strangely enough it appears you are saying these people are neither Mujahideen nor jihadists. And frankly I don't really see a problem with being derogatory about 'Muslim militant groups around the world.'
see i told you there's something against pork. pork meat is not dirty. you cook it and you can eat it, just like chicken and steak. i like pork. thats my stance. when back in the ancient way did someone deem pork filthy? why did the poor animal become the bane of middle eastern diet? i bet you it was refrigeration, they didnt have any. think about it, if there was the bird flu back in the day and millions of people died, then the prophet or whomever would deem chickens the animal of the devil. i like to look things logically and break it down. you can just accept stuff, you have to ask yourself, this seperates smart humans from humans who are blinded by other people or books .
By driving them down. You do realize that Islam has a few followers, eh? BTW_ I shop at a Halal & Kosher market from time to time. Freshest meat around. Coolest soft drink selections too!
