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Palin vetted, NYTimes materially false

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  1. basso

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    aka, lying liars.

    via the corner the McCain campaign sets the record straight.

    [rquoter]Team McCain Hits Back on Palin, Vetting [Byron York]
    Had a long talk this morning with a senior strategist in the McCain campaign. I think it’s fair to say Team McCain is seriously unhappy with a New York Times story, “Palin Disclosures Raise Questions On Vetting,” which came out this morning and is driving much of the coverage of the issue. The story begins:

    A series of disclosures about Gov. Sarah Palin, Senator John McCain’s choice as running mate, called into question on Monday how thoroughly Mr. McCain had examined her background before putting her on the Republican presidential ticket.

    On Monday morning, Ms. Palin and her husband, Todd, issued a statement saying that their 17-year-old unmarried daughter, Bristol, was five months pregnant and that she intended to marry the father.

    Among other less attention-grabbing news of the day: it was learned that Ms. Palin now has a private lawyer in a legislative ethics investigation in Alaska into whether she abused her power in dismissing the state’s public safety commissioner; that she was a member for two years in the 1990s of the Alaska Independence Party, which has at times sought a vote on whether the state should secede; and that Mr. Palin was arrested 22 years ago on a drunken-driving charge.

    The story, my campaign source told me, is “materially false.” Gov. Palin, the strategist said, was subjected to a “complete vet.” “That included her filling out a 70-question questionnaire that was highly intrusive and personal. She was then interviewed for more than three hours by A.B. Culvahouse. There were multiple follow-up interviews.” (I asked precisely how many follow-ups there were, but my source stuck with “multiple.”) “There was a thorough interview process,” the strategist continued. “There was a public records search and political vet. There was a private life and financial vet. Everything that has come out was known by the campaign through the vetting process.”

    Okay. What about particulars? The strategist started at the bottom and moved up.

    “Todd’s DUI — we judged that to be immaterial to the selection process. The ticket for fishing without a license — we judged that to be immaterial to the selection process.” On the charge that Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party, the strategist said, flatly, “She was never a member of the independence party, because she has been a registered Republican.” (Later, the McCain camp put out a statement saying it had provided reporters with “ALL voter registration documentation” showing that Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982 and “has never been a member of the AIP.”) And on the issue of Palin’s daughter Bristol being pregnant: “John McCain made a decision that did not affect his decision-making in terms of her qualifications.” (As far as the allegation that Gov. Palin faked a pregnancy to cover up for her daughter is concerned, it appears the McCain campaign knew about it and looked into it, but never very deeply because it had been proven false to the satisfaction of pretty much anyone outside The Atlantic or the DailyKos.)

    From our conversation, it was clear that the McCain campaign paid a lot of attention to the so-called “Troopergate” issue. After all, unlike the “fake baby” story that has preoccupied the press, it is a real issue involving allegations that Palin abused her power. Last night, the McCain campaign distributed a "background guidance" memo to reporters on the issue. In our conversation, the strategist recounted much of the substance of that memo.

    “Of course this issue came up in the vetting, and this is what we discovered,” the source said. “The man who was fired has said on the record that he was never pressured by the governor or the governor’s husband on the issue of firing Trooper Wooten. The governor had a vision for how she wanted that department to be run. The commissioner had a different vision.”
    “The reason that members of the Palin family were having discussions with the head of the state police about this state trooper, who was her ex-brother-in-law, was because he had made threats against the family. He threatened to kill the governor's daughter, her father, and her sister. He tasered her 11-year-old stepson. And that is why the Palin family was concerned about this trooper.”

    I brought up accusations that the McCain team has performed a “legal vet” on Palin but did not perform a “political vet.” In addition to the accusation that Palin had been a member of the Alaska Independence Party, there were issues like her change in position on the “bridge to nowhere” and her support for raising sales taxes in Wasilla, Alaska. “Change on the ‘bridge to nowhere?’” my source asked. “Are you saying there’s somebody out there who believes that should disqualify her to be vice president?” Barack Obama has changed his mind on a few things, the strategist added. As for sales taxes in Wasilla, the source said, “Every aspect of her political record is known to us. These people [McCain’s opponents] are desperate.”

    As for what materials the campaign examined in the vetting, the source told me they checked out (almost) everything. “The only thing the campaign did not look at was the microfilm of the local newspaper, because it was impossible to look at the microfilm without revealing the search process,” the strategist said. “We made a calculation that we would be able to get all the information from the Anchorage newspaper, that it was unlikely that there would be items in the local papers that were problematic that didn’t make it to the Anchorage paper.”[/rquoter]
     
  2. Major

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    Too bad multiple people in Alaska that would be a part of the basic vetting process say they were never contacted. Any the GOP has sent a vetting team up there this week. Why do that if she was already fully vetted?

    But, let's say she was fully vetted. What does that say about the McCain campaign's incompetence that they let it appear they were so haphazard about it and let the media uncover all this stuff? Their own surrogates were left in the dark and left to defend indefensible positions. That screams incompetence.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    What does that make The Alaska Daily News?

     
  4. yaoluv

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    Isn't knowing all of this stuff and still selecting her worse for Mccain than just not vetting her enough?
     
  5. rimrocker

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    OK.

    Let's assume she was fully vetted.

    With all the stuff that's come out, any competent campaign would have managed it much better, knowing as they would, the details beforehand.

    Or... the vetting didn't matter because the Religious wackos forced McCain to take her.

    It is interesting you are trying to deflect the vetting criticism when the much more damaging issue is the fact that in the modern Republican Party, presidential candidates can't pick their own running mates and instead have to go hat in hand to people like James Dobson.

    No matter how you try and spin this, it's a train wreck for the Republicans.

    There is nothing about this pick that says leadership or competency and everything about it screams party before country.
     
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    Why doesn't McCain just tell us the truth about her? "Hey I picked her because she loves God and her family, has good values and has governing experience but most of all she has a VAGINA. Which is something that Hillary apparently has as well. I would have picked my wife as my VP but I can't remember her name or where we actually live." :D
     
  7. El_Conquistador

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    Great article, totally debunks the latest round of slop wallerin' that the libs have taken part in... So nice work libs -- you were proven wrong on all of your misogynistic rumor mongering gambits, yet you succeeded in rallying the Republican base and WOMEN to the cause of protecting Sarah Palin. How's that working out for you?


    HILARITY
     
  8. yaoluv

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    You know what would really debunk these crazy rumors, letting Palin be interviewed or allowing her to conduct a Press Conference.

    Does anybody else find it odd that Palin seems to have conducted 0 interviews and held 0 press conferences since being selected as VP.

    The longer Mccain keeps her away from the press.. the more CRAZY the hype and rumors will get. What are they hiding?
     
  9. t_mac1

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    if she was fully vetted, then this isn't the way they wanted to introduce her to the world. they wouldn't wait 3 days after introducing her to announce her daughter is pregnant, the trouper gate story... instead of saying it straight up on the first day to destroy any potential rumors.

    if this is how the mccain vets their VPs, then their full vetting is not at the highest level.

    and once again, he went against his words. he said publicly many times the FIRST PRIORITY of picking a VP is one who can replace him ON DAY ONE. really, hard-core republicans, she is the most ready to be president on day one other than john mccain? REALLY?
     
  10. basso

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    the democrats have exposed themselves as the anti-women party, and the times is their party organ.
     
  11. Willis25

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    wow...a blog from a conservative news source and all other reports disappear
    :rolleyes:


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  12. Invisible Fan

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    Maybe they're stalling to build a consistent and believable narrative. Your guess is as good as mine...
     
  13. Oski2005

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    National Review, pffffff.
     
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    Regarding vetting, the best the McCain campaign can do is to generate a story based on one interview with an unattributed McCain strategist r with the biased National Review. Bet they can get a story with Rush Limbaugh, Hannity or Fox News also.

    Meanwhile the New York Times and the Alaskan newspaper are just biased, despite quotes from numerous officials in Alaska. Good enough for the true believers.
     
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    More stuff coming out... all signs of a complete vetting.

    Hubby was a member of AIP according to state docs... from 1995 until 2002. 2002 was the first year Palin ran for state-wide office.
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/todd_palin_was_registered_memb.php

    Palin tried to ban books from the library when she was mayor and threatened to fire the librarian for not supporting her.
    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html

    A spokesperson claimed she had visited three countries... Kuwait, Germany, and Ireland. No wait, four... Canada. Except the Ireland visit was a refueling stop.
    http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/palin-lied-about-visiting-ireland-as.html

    The lobbyist she hired to get earmarks for her town was affiliated with Abramoff.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/01/AR2008090103148.html

    McCain campaign says Palin didn't attend AIP Convention. AIP say otherwise.
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/another-aip-off.html

    Palin was a partial owner in a car wash that was shut down by the state.
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_scrubbing_car_wash.html

    McCain campaign cancelled Palin's appearance at a Pro-Life rally. The troops aren't happy.
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/schlafly-chides.html

    McCain has nixed a CNN interview. If you can't stand up to Larry King, how can you stand up to terrorists?
    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/mccain_cancels_cnn_interview_a.php
     
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    Palin had her new-born delivered by a vet -- this is getting ridiculous even for a frontier woman.
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    this blogicle doesn't really do much to prove a proper vetting process was done.. except it looks good to bold font a 3 word statement
     
  18. Rocketman95

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    On. A. Roll.
     
  19. basso

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    will you take the bet rim?
     
  20. BigBenito

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    Wait, what is this? You are now willing to accept the bet on who will win in November? Oh my, this is news. Is TJ accepting too?
     

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