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Palin the Maverick charged Alaska for her Kid's expenses

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  1. Zboy

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    AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel

    By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE, ADAM GOLDMAN and MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writers Brett J. Blackledge, Adam Goldman And Matt Apuzzo, Associated Press Writers 3 mins ago

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.

    The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.


    In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters' 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.

    Alaska law does not specifically address expenses for a governor's children. The law allows for payment of expenses for anyone conducting official state business.

    As governor, Palin justified having the state pay for the travel of her daughters — Bristol, 17; Willow, 14; and Piper, 7 — by noting on travel forms that the girls had been invited to attend or participate in events on the governor's schedule.

    But some organizers of these events said they were surprised when the Palin children showed up uninvited, or said they agreed to a request by the governor to allow the children to attend.

    Several other organizers said the children merely accompanied their mother and did not participate. The trips enabled Palin, whose main state office is in the capital of Juneau, to spend more time with her children.

    "She said any event she can take her kids to is an event she tries to attend," said Jennifer McCarthy, who helped organize the June 2007 Family Day Celebration picnic in Ketchikan that Piper attended with her parents.

    State Finance Director Kim Garnero told The Associated Press she has not reviewed the Palins' travel expense forms, so she could not say whether the daughters' travel with their mother would meet the definition of official business.

    On Aug. 6, three weeks before Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain chose Palin his running mate, and after Alaska reporters asked for the records, Palin ordered changes to previously filed expense reports for her daughters' travel.

    In the amended reports, Palin added phrases such as "First Family attending" and "First Family invited" to explain the girls' attendance.

    "The governor said, 'I want the purpose and the reason for this travel to be clear,'" said Linda Perez, state director of administrative services.

    When Palin released her family's tax records as part of her vice presidential campaign, some tax experts questioned why she did not report the children's state travel reimbursements as income.

    The Palins released a review by a Washington attorney who said state law allows the children's travel expenses to be reimbursed and not taxed when they conduct official state business.

    Taylor Griffin, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman, said Palin followed state policy allowing governors to charge for their children's travel. He said the governor's office has invitations requesting the family to attend some events, but he said he did not have them to provide.

    In October 2007, Palin brought daughter Bristol along on a trip to New York for a women's leadership conference. Plane tickets from Anchorage to La Guardia Airport for $1,385.11 were billed to the state, records show, and mother and daughter shared a room for four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House hotel, which overlooks Central Park.

    The event's organizers said Palin asked if she could bring her daughter.

    Alexis Gelber, who organized Newsweek's Third Annual Women & Leadership Conference, said she does not know how Bristol ended up attending. Gelber said invitees usually attend alone, but some ask if they can bring a relative or friend.

    Griffin, the campaign spokesman, said he believes someone with the event personally sent an e-mail to Bristol inviting her, but he did not have it to provide. Records show Palin also met with Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Goldman Sachs representatives and visited the New York Stock Exchange.

    In January, the governor, Willow and Piper showed up at the Alaska Symphony of Seafood Buffet, an Anchorage gala to announce winners of an earlier seafood competition.

    "She was just there," said James Browning, executive director of Alaska Fisheries Development Foundation, which runs the event. Griffin said the governor's office received an invitation that was not specifically addressed to anyone.

    When Palin amended her children's expense reports, she listed a role for the two girls at the function — "to draw two separate raffle tickets."

    In the original travel form, Palin listed a number of events that her children attended and said they were there "in official capacity helping." She did not identify any specific roles for the girls.

    In July, the governor charged the state $2,741.26 to take Bristol and Piper to Philadelphia for a meeting of the National Governors Association. The girls had their own room for five nights at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel for $215.46 a night, expense records show.

    Expense forms describe the girls' official purpose as "NGA Governor's Youth Programs and family activities." But those programs were activities designed to keep children busy, a service provided by the NGA to accommodate governors and their families, NGA spokeswoman Jodi Omear said.

    In addition to the commercial flights, the children have traveled dozens of times with Palin on a state plane. For these flights, the total cost of operating the plane, at $971 an hour, was about $55,000, according to state flight logs. The cost of operating the state plane does not increase when the children join their mother.

    The organizer of an American Heart Association luncheon on Feb. 15 in Fairbanks said Palin asked to bring daughter Piper to the event, and the organizer said she was surprised when Palin showed up with daughters Willow and Bristol as well.

    The three Palin daughters shared a room separate from their mother at the Princess Lodge in Fairbanks for two nights, at a cost to the state of $129 per night.

    The luncheon took place before Palin's husband, Todd, finished fourth in the 2,000-mile Iron Dog snowmobile race, also in Fairbanks. The family greeted him at the finish line.

    When Palin showed up at the luncheon with not just Piper but also Willow and Bristol, organizers had to scramble to make room at the main table, said Janet Bartels, who set up the event.

    "When it's the governor, you just make it happen," she said.

    The state is already reviewing nearly $17,000 in per diem payments to Palin for more than 300 nights she slept at her own home, 40 miles from her satellite office in Anchorage.

    Tony Knowles, a Democratic former governor of Alaska who lost to Palin in a 2006 bid to reclaim the job, said he never charged the state for his three children's commercial flights or claimed their travel as official state business.

    Knowles, who was governor from 1994 to 2002, is the only other recent Alaska governor who had school-age children while in office.

    "There was no valid reason for the children to be along on state business," said Knowles, a supporter of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. "I cannot recall any instance during my eight years as governor where it would have been appropriate to claim they performed state business."

    Knowles said he brought his children to one NGA event while in office but didn't charge the state for their trip.

    In February 2007, the three girls flew from Juneau to Anchorage on Alaska Airlines. Palin charged the state for the $519.30 round-trip ticket for each girl, and noted on the expense form that the daughters accompanied her to "open the start of the Iron Dog race."

    The children and their mother then watched as Todd Palin and other racers started the competition, which Todd won that year. Palin later had the relevant expense forms changed to describe the girls' business as "First Family official starter for the start of the Iron Dog race."

    The Palins began charging the state for commercial flights after the governor kept a 2006 campaign promise to sell a jet bought by her predecessor.

    Palin put the jet up for sale on eBay, a move she later trumpeted in her star-making speech at the Republican National Convention, and it was ultimately sold by the state at a loss.

    That left only one high-performance aircraft deemed safe enough for her to use — a 1980 twin-engine King Air assigned to the public safety agency but, according to flight logs, out of service for maintenance and repairs about a third of the time Palin has been governor.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel
     
  2. Zboy

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    Little too Mavericky for my taste.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Snobama travels to Kenya, supports a candidate with genocidal tendencies who supports the imposition of Shariah Law, buys a house in a sweetheart deal with a convicted felon, accepts over $60mm in cash from 'unknown' sources -- many of which had currency converted, still hasn't produced a birth certificate, had a freaking terrorist launch his political career, and attended a racist, America-hating church for 20 years....

    ...and this is what the AP is investigating? Some travel expenses?

    This is truly the year that the media lost all credibility.
     
  4. rimrocker

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    I'm still interested in knowing which of Todd's "contractor friends" helped him build their house.
     
  5. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Non issue for me. I'm sure other governors include their family in travel, give or take snowmobile races. You're always working (or should be) when you're in these types of jobs.

    I get why it's a story, since she's supposed to clean every up and get all reformery. But eh, no big deal.
     
  6. surrender

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    CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
     
  7. Faos

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    When will someone investigate who paid for Biden's hair plugs?
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    Why bother being the big dog if you can't skim a little off the top... come on people! THINK!
     
  9. aussie rocket

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    I farking hate every kind of Maverick.
     
  10. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    except James Garner, right? :(

    [​IMG]
     
  11. s land balla

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    I haven't actually met you, but from reading a lot of your posts, you may be the most conservative right-wing nut I've ever come across (I bet Michael Savage is a hero of yours).

    Just out curiosity, do most of your close friends (assuming you have any) and/or your family share your ultra-conservative views?

    Also, do you have a college education?
     
  12. Spacemoth

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    None of this would matter if Palin could offer a better opinion than I could on the bailout. But she can't. And it's one of the biggest tragedies in American history that she's coming so close to the presidency.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    Let's see so since her nomination we have established that Palin is

    1. Guilty of abusing the authority of office
    2. Charging the state an obnoxiously huge per diem to which she was not entitled - to cook dinner at home - and then not declaring it on her income taxes
    3. Taking her kids along on junkets and then charging it back to the taxpayers and then fibbing on state records so she could get reimbursed for them.

    REFORM HAS COME TO ALASKA!
     
  14. rimrocker

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    Where are those Kenyan emails again? And why don't you go to the previous thread on this topic and answer the posts refuting your ridiculousness?
     
  15. rimrocker

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    Not only that, but it appears she can't dress herself or her family... at least to Cindy McCain standards...

    Elitist baby stores? But basso told me Palin got her baby stuff at Wal-Mart.
     
  16. Landlord Landry

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    meanwhile, Obama is squeaky clean.........

    which party is full of sheep?
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Go ahead, and hit us with the links and proof of your accusations....go ahead...show us the same types of lying and cheating.

    DD
     
  18. SamFisher

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    He has never been found to have done any of the things I mentioned.....plus he has many other excellent qualifications (intelligence, for exampleP other than being a pretend reformer, which is Palin's only gimmick and the one she rode to governor of notoriously corrupt Alaska.
     
  19. Landlord Landry

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    whats the point DD? anytime I post a link, you don't read it, totally dismiss it, and nullify it as squadoosh, even when said link has merit.

    do you concur that Obama is squeaky clean?
     
  20. Carl Herrera

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    Because prior to 2008, you always thought the media had credibility, and this year changed everything, eh?
     

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