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Pakistani minister offers $ 100,000 reward to kill film maker

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Sep 22, 2012.

  1. Northside Storm

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    "Why does the Pakistan hate us???"

    Because we're not Muslim.

    "Why do they love China???"

    Because---uh.

     
  2. s land balla

    s land balla Member

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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Intern "logic".
     
  4. trustme

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    Was it too hard for you to understand his logic? Don't you have documents to copy at your law firm?
     
  5. dmc89

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    Like trustme said, this is Pakistani politics where to get elected has little to do with education. Frankly though, there are politicians in the United States who I know that have very weak math/science skills (especially when I discussed climate change and energy policy with them). Many of the officeholders in Pak have increasingly feigned religious piety for political support from constituents that are becoming more extremist in their beliefs.

    Pakistan like many parts of the Islamic world is a good 100 years back in terms of culture and awareness of crucial ideas like freedom of speech. I can't think of any easy answers of how to accelerate them catching up with us.

    It's (darkly) hilarious that a backwards nation like Pak has knowledge of one of the most complex and precise sciences in its arsenal. Thanks to the inept Reagan/Bush administration, the obstructionism in Washington, and lack of respect for Pakistan's sneaky ability to play both sides and still profit, there is very little we can do today to force Pak's hand.
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Sunni Islam leader calls for peace, urges Muslims to have 'patience and wisdom'

    Cairo (CNN) -- A leading figure in the Sunni Islam world called for fellow believers to respond to recent controversial portrayals of Mohammed -- which he said "spread hatred" -- just like the prophet himself would, "through patience and wisdom."
    The Grand Mufti of Egypt Ali Gomaa spoke to CNN as Muslims staged yet more passionate protests Saturday in yet more locales, from Germany to Lebanon to Bangladesh, as they have since September 11. Demonstrators railed against an obscure, 14-minute trailer for a film that mocks Mohammed as a womanizer, child molester and killer -- as well as the country in which it was privately produced, the United States -- and more recently a French satirical magazine's cartoons of a figure representing Mohammed.
    Egypt's grand mufti questioned whether in the United States, for example, the inflammatory film "Innocence of Muslims" was not illegal under laws prohibiting the spread of hatred. And he also challenged if laws protecting freedom of speech were applicable.
    "This is not freedom of speech, this is an attack on humanity, (an) attack on religions, and (an) attack on human rights," he said.
    At the same time, the North African nation's grand mufti -- a figure appointed by Egypt's government whose pronouncements often hold significant sway in the Muslim world -- stressed conflict is not the answer, saying, "We live together and must respect our neighbors."
    "These cartoons spread hatred, and we call for peace," he said, adding that Islamic leaders "fear the spread of hatred" against their religion and oppose "the mocking" of any religion.
    Noting Egypt-based Coptic Church bishops had condemned the film that sparked protests, Egypt's grand mufti -- who noted he's active in the Coexist Foundation, which promotes religious tolerance -- urged an end to the cycle of different groups attacking each other. And in Egypt, at least, he vowed Muslims and Christians will continue to peacefully coexist despite the recent turmoil.
    Anti-U.S. demonstrations worldwide
    "My message to those who want (strife) between Muslims and Christians in Egypt, I tell them, 'You will not succeed, because we are one people that have been living together for more than 1,400 years,'" he said.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/22/world/world-film-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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    This guy doesn't understand freedom of speech, but relative to crazies like this minister in Pakistan, he is a voice of reason and moderation. I hope that voices like these will prevail in the Muslim world.
     
  7. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Here is polling data from Arab countries that are not getting bombed:

    http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/re...blic opinion telhami/1121_arab_public_opinion

    How people can continue to ignore the real reasons why people in the region feel the way they do towards the US?

    http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2012/09/12-pakistan-riedel
     
  8. s land balla

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    Interesting and humanizing article I just came across about the subject.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    I acknowledge that it is a double-edged sword and that there are strong arguments to be critical of the drone action.
     
  10. Qball

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    you forgot greedy
     

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