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Oscars for the wrong film?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Elvis Costello, Mar 25, 2002.

  1. Elvis Costello

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    Besides Gwenyth's nightmarish dress, Uma's Goodyear cleavage and Halle's breakdown, it dawned on me that a lot of nominees get the Oscar on the basis of past achievements rather than from their current nominations. I think, for example, that Russell Crowe didn't deserve to win for "Gladiator," but he did deserve Oscars for "A Beautiful Mind" and "The Insider." Same with Denzel Washington. Who are some other Oscar winners who have done better work in the past, but were unrewarded?
     
  2. DEANBCURTIS

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    Just a few that come to mind.


    Jack Pallace for City Slickers

    Paul Newman for The Color of Money

    Al Pacino for Scent of a Woman
     
  3. BigM

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    i disagree, pacino was the man in scent of a woman, but i'm not sure who he was up against.
     
  4. Mrs. JB

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    That was the 1992 Academy Awards, and Pacino was up against some very worthy competitors:

    Al Pacino in "Scent of a Woman"
    Robert Downey, Jr. in "Chaplin"
    Clint Eastwood in "Unforgiven"
    Stephen Rea in "The Crying Game"
    Denzel Washington in "Malcolm X"

    I personally think Denzel's performance was far more deserving of the Oscar than Pacino's, but that's just me.
     
  5. DEANBCURTIS

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    My thoughts exactely Lady Jb. As for my other cases, I guess some explanation should of been inlcluded. Now its not that I thought of Jack or Paul as undeserving in regards of their awards, but merely that they've done more illuminating work in different films yet came up empty handed, a shame really.
     
  6. BigM

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    wow, that's a very impressive group. pacino is my favorite actor, but i agree with you. denzel's performance was awesome in malcom x and he probably should have gotten it.
     
  7. Jeff

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    Out of that list, as much as I love Pacino, I'd probably put him last:

    1. Denzel Washington in "Malcolm X" - This was a legendary performance, but he wasn't going to get the nod because the movie was controversial and the film didn't get any major nominamtions like Best Picture or Best Director.

    2. Robert Downey, Jr. in "Chaplin" - I don't like Downey all that much but, like Washington, his portrayal of Chaplin was incredible.

    3. Clint Eastwood in "Unforgiven" - Hackman won Best Supporting Actor and Eastwood's performance in this film was terrific. Westerns have a tough time garnering awards, though.

    4. Stephen Rea in "The Crying Game" - Rea was really great in this film. He was the dark horse that year and really was worthy of the nomination.

    5. Al Pacino in "Scent of a Woman" - He was great but this was a weak win. I loved him in Insider but even that was over the top to me. Dog Day Afternoon and Serpico were my favorites but he also was great in The Godfather and Scarface. This one really wasn't his best but he did at least deserve the nomination.
     
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    I thought this thread was going to be about the rumor that Vanessa Redgrave actually won an Oscar, but a drunk Jack Palance was the presenter and gave it to the first person on the list instead - Marisa Tomei.

    I still can't believe Titantic won anything. That movie was a55.
     
  9. TheFreak

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    Jim Carey should have at least got a nomination for Man on the Moon.
     
  10. Jeff

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    And for The Truman Show.
     
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    I liked the movie Lord of the Rings, but I fail to see why it was nominated. It didn't show me anything about myself and it didn't give me any insight into how somebody else felt. It was a nice action film, but I just didn't get anything out of it.

    I'm curious, does the book have some moral theme other than good versus evil?
     
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    Why? I thought he did a good Andy Kaufman impersonation, but overall, I thought the movie was extremely mediocre. Besides that, any movie with Courtney Love in it automatically gives me the dry heaves. :)
     
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    I agree Denzel should have won before...but I don't think he was undeserving of this award AT ALL!!! I thought his performance in Training Day was as good as any bad guy character I've ever seen. He did an amazing job!!! I don't think it's so clear that he didn't deserve it this year.

    The ironic thing is he wasn't gonna take this role...his son talked him into it! :)
     
  14. Mrs. JB

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    First vomiting because of Oprah and now the dry heaves due to Courtney -- you may want to see a doctor about your stomach problems. :)
     
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    Ewww... Jim Carrey... I think of him as slightly better of an actor than Chris Rock. Sorry, his dramatic performances are just sort of... performed with a hammer instead of a chisel.

    Lord of the Rings is an epic myth, although that's more evident in the novels than in the film. It's not just about action, but about good and evil. And while any movie is about that to some point, LoTR actually deals with the questions in a mature manner, and tries to answer questions about how humans work. LoTR is also close to aesthetically perfect. Tolkien really was a marvelous writer, some of which is lost in the movies. You can see his imagination, but not his words. I didn't think it should have won Best Picture, but I do think that Ian McKellan should have won best supporting actor as Gandalf.
     

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