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Osama Bin Laden is winning.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Sep 23, 2008.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    This near economic collapse is exactly the stated goals of Al-queda, he wants to bring economic ruin to our country so his radical religious sect can strong arm their way around the world.

    Sadly, Dubya took the bait and went into Iraq and now nearly a trillion dollars later, it looks like Osama might win.

    If the US economy collapses, it will bring down a good portion of the world's economy, which is exactly what Osama wants.

    This is what happens when you put a person in the WhiteHouse who is not smart enough to deal with the big picture, and view things from multiple angles.

    Someone who doesn't blink.

    America needs more intelligence in it's leaders.....before Osama wins....

    DD
     
  2. ROXRAN

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    present....
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    You have to think that OBL knew how we would react, and planned accordingly.
     
  4. rhadamanthus

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    As several of my posts in the past have asserted, I completely and totally agree with DD.

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    That being said, our current economic crisis is just as much the fault of idiotic lawmakers and the cadre of greedy corporate lobbyists they pander to as it is fallout of our massive (and ****ing stupid) "investment" in Iraq.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    He is mad, but he is clearly smarter than Dubya and his staff.

    DD
     
  6. danny317

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    while i dont support bush nor his policies, these two things arent mutually exclusive.

    im sure obl, no matter how cunning, could have never predicted the us would end up in the situation it is in now.

    hopefully the next president will be able to repair all the damage caused by bush but i fear the us will never be the same again...
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    I completely disagree.

    Terrorists do things to provoke action.

    Why would we have been attacked if not to illicit a certain reaction?
     
  8. DaDakota

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    You know that when Clinton left office the Bush staff figured that by 2008 we would have a 5 trillion dollar surpluss due to the pay as you go law that Clinton and the republican congress agreed upon.

    We went from a deficit to a surpluss under Clinton.

    Then, what did Bush and the Republican's do? They tossed out the pay as you go law in 2002, and began to spend spend spend...and now, instead of a 5 trillion dollar surplus we have an 11 trillion dollar debt.

    And people STILL want to put in Bush lite.....un- fricken - believable.

    As for the Topic....of course OBL wanted the US to go to war in the middle east, he knows that the war will turn unpopular quickly - it did....and that America will waste billions on a war they can not win....it has.....

    DD
     
  9. rhadamanthus

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    I understand and agree DD. I was referring to the financial (banking) crisis. Like it or not, the deregulation that enabled it was a joint (demopublican) affair. It was pushed forward by the repubs ( i think every senate democrat voted against it), but clinton signed it into law.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Yes, no doubt, but if we had not spent BILLIONS in Iraq, we would be better able to focus on our homefront and deal with situations like these.

    DD
     
  11. danny317

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    yes...

    but to know that their actions would lead to total meltdown of financial markets, involvement in 2 drawn out wars, marginalization of alliances w/ foreign countries, etc...

    i think obl was thinking more along the lines of disruption and bringing world wide attention to his cause. not the near total collapse of the US.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    I think you are giving Osama Bin Ladin way too much credit. While his strategy was to lure the US into a long protracted conflict I have a hard time seeing how Bin Ladin had a hand in getting banks and investment firms to set up questionable mortgage practices or for consumers to buy into those practices.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    I think you guys are making too much of a direct connection here......

    Osama wanted the US to waste billions and hopefully lead to economic ruin of our country.....well, he was right, he may not have gotten the details correct, but he certainly knew that us fighting a bad war in Iraq would have dire consequences.

    DD
     
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    You have to forgive DaDakota...he embraces faith. He is somewhat stupid...


    Obama is right, Guns and Religion represent the stupidity of Americans and American Culture. -

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    Maybe maybe no.
     
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    If we're extra secular, he'll deliver a bomb shaped turd down our chimneys for Christmas.
     
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    yeah that was his stated goal but i think he realized that would be a best case scenario. i dont think he actually though it would occur.

    unfortunately, the best case scenario is playing out...

    just hope the next president will be able to right the ship.
     
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    I can't believe the shareholders let bin Laden become the CEO of Bear, Lehman, Goldman, Morgan, Merrill, Fannie, Freddie, and Countrywide. He's such a genius.
     
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    I thought that guy that made me sign that ARM with balloon payments and a pre-payment penalty 4 years ago looked familiar.

    Holy crap, it was osama bin laden!! Bush should have never let him get into the mortgage business.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    Dire military consequences but I doubt he could've considered chaos on our financial markets having to do with the behavior of consumers and banks. This just seems too tenous of a conection. Osama Bin Ladin is our enemy but giving him any credit or recent financial turmoil is way overblown.
     

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