Let me ask you all a question. At what point after a player is drafted are they considered to be a bust? One year? 2...3? Reason i ask is because we currently have two 2009 lotto players on our team in Hill and Williams. Neither are considered busts because they have both shown promise in their 1st seasons. Yet, they were traded to our team for whatever reason. Now there are 2 other players picked in the 2009 lottery available to us. Flynn, who played well in his 1st season, is now up for trade for whatever reason. Hasheem Thabeet, who hasn't shown enough yet, but we all know that it takes some big men longer to develop. Plus, Memphis is not as good a team as Houston when it comes to coaching big men. Thabeet would be surrounded by great big man coaches and Hakeem. Under the Rockets big man support, Thabeet will be a beast in 3 years!. My point is, we, and only we, currently have the opportunity to get 4 players picked in the 2009 lottery. Top 12! Three have shown they can play in their 1st seasons. One is still finding his way. He just needs the right support.They all play different positions. These teams have given up on these two players midway through their second seasons? Thats way too early, imo. This type of unique opportunity doesn't occur often. This is the type of opportunity that could make us a superteam in 5 years or less. We could also get it done on the cheap and without breaking up the current team too much. Oh yeah..... and Patrick Patterson!!
Some guys, like Chauncey Billups, are late blooming lotto picks whose teams gave up way too early. Other guys are just Adam Morrisons.
Player needs to get significant playing time consistently over at least half a season, i'd say....that may not be enough for them to blossom into a star, but at the very least they have to show you something significant. With all the roster moves and change in lineups players rarely get that early on and get lost.
We have all seen the wonders of Rockets coaching with Hill. He did well last season and it's obvious he's improved after a full offseason.
great point, coach... the point is, we shouldn't turn them into Darko's. We need to play them. How do we play them? Trade away our veterans. They weren't in the lottery for no reason. Now lets get them some burn and see if they got some legit talent. Time to trade away Battier, Hayes, Miller for free.
Exactly. That greatest misses list is long. Joe Alexander #8; Brandan Wright #8; Stromile Swift #2; Saer Sene #10 -- just to name a few more. Just because Johnny Flynn was #6 in the lottery doesn't mean he's better than (or will be) #26 Aaron Brooks -- because he's not.
You don't want 4 lottery picks in the same year on your roster. It means they'll all be up for extension at the same year. That would be a GM's nightmare.
under rick adelman, NEVER. just kidding, but you can pretty much double the amount of seasons required because he does not give them significant playtime unless he is forced to (via injury or trade).
That was an injury plagued season, he had no choice but to play him... in 05/06 we ended up with the 8th pick for a reason..
And JVG cut him, CD had to convince him to resign the guy. Hardly a strong support of JVG playing rookies.....Luther played though as a rookie. DD
Getting to the OP's point, I think I would trade for Flynn and Thabeet to develop them and either keep them or trade them on draft night, to move up in the draft. Given that their still considered young cheap talented assets... Maybe on draftnight we could do, 9th-12th pick + Thabeet or Hill for the 4th-6th pick(Enes Kanter)
