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one thing yao is better than stoudamire in...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SunsRocketsfan, Jun 1, 2005.

  1. SunsRocketsfan

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    After watching the suns spurs series i can say the only thing yao better than stoudamire is selling tickets and being a nicer guy. Amare is crazy... I really didnt like him at all and he was one of the reasons why i didnt like the suns this year, but damn is he better than yao in every category. Better scorer, blocker defensive player, etc. Maybe yao might be the better passer.
    Im kinda dissapointed acutally. I have awlays been a big Yao fan. But at this point Amare is definately one big STEP ahead of Yao... I always thought it was Nash assisting it to him but its not. HE can just take any big man off the dribble. Amare is definately better than yao and anyone that disagrees is just being ignorant.

    well with that said . hope yao wows us next year
     
  2. The Real Shady

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    Yao is a better shooter, passer, and video game player.

    Amare is very good but we have a pretty good one in Yao also.
     
  3. Gatorfan76

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    I don't think Amare is much of a defender at all, plus he hardly if ever gets double-teamed....
     
  4. Blatz

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    Well I guess there was no point in starting this thread then huh? :rolleyes:
     
  5. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    yao is two steps behind. not to take anything away from yao, but amare is just awesome.

    the next step for yao is to get his stamina up to par. amare plays at full speed/strength for 40 minutes a night. we get 24 minutes of that effort a night from yao the rest he is struggling to keep up.

    if yao can get his stamina up for next season he will look a lot more consistant and a lot more dominant.
     
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    It's not about how you start, it's about how you finish. Lets see how many championships each gets with their respective teams.
     
  7. SunsRocketsfan

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    have you been watching the spurs series. He's blocking shots like crazy. I thought yao was the better shooter but amare acutaly has quite a decent range up to 15 feet. Same as Yaos. Plus i always thought Yao has a bigger impact on the game, but what amare is doing in teh spurs series is just amazing. I can not imagine yao dominating like Amare is right now. I believe he has 30+ pts in every game against the best defensive team ( Spurs). He looks like he is going to go 40+ tonite. Yao just doesnt have that passion and agressiveness to bounce back like Amare does too. Anyways Yao is definately a great player and has a lot more potential And i guess its not fair of me or anyone to compare him to anyone else. BUt everoyne always bring this up and looking at what i see now amare is just a lot better
     
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    If Yao had Amare's aggressive nature, the Rockets would not be playing right now.





    They'd be waiting for their Finals opponent.


    Amare reminds me of a young Hakeem Olajuwon, just not as big, and not as effective from the start in the NBA, but Amare came from high school. Hakeem was a filthy big man dunker in his first few years and so is Amare. What a joy to watch this. Truly amazing.
     
  9. TECH

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    The Sun's supporting cast is too good at outside shooting to concentrate too much on Amare.
     
  10. Uprising

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    Amare is a stud. I would love to have him on this team, but yao and amare in a draft line.....I'll take Yao any day.

    Amare is just...WOW tonight.
     
  11. SunsRocketsfan

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    well if u have been watching the spurs series the suns cast sucks. Other than Nash and Amare .. and JJ (only started playing in game 3) Everyone else has been a non factor. Marion sucks and Q. Rich has been just awful. Its been all amare creating his own shots and dunks. yao just doesnt have the fast reflexes as Amare. Yes amare definatley has some potential to be like the dream. He just needs to learn some fundamentals and he is going to be crazy.
     
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    Stoudemire gets the spectacular blocks. But as a one on one defender, he's not very good. He allows just about anyone to get great positioning on him in the post.

    But really, who cares about defense when you got an offense like his. The Suns will probably lose game 5, but holy crap, he had a Jordanesque fourth quarter.
     
  13. SunsRocketsfan

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    ya thatas true. . as a one on one defender he's not that good. I definatley agree with that.. again he's more of a PF than a center. so with shaq aging like crazy down in miami i think yao will definately be one of the top centers next year.
     
  14. BigSexy

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    More impact indeed. Suns about to be eliminated. It doesnt matter how many points he gets or blocked shots he gets. If his team loses and he combines with the MVP of the league to in getting 61 points then how is that impactful?
    Dont get me wrong, he is a very talented player, but in my opinion the Suns go only as far as Marion takes them. He has been shut down in this series and they are gonna lose as a result.
     
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    Honestly, that's because of their coach. Who's ever heard of a coach that can't utilize his players? Seriously, you have Horry on Marion and you're not going to create plays for him?

    I blame this series loss on 2 things:

    1. Q is another volume/streaky shooter that got cold at the wrong time

    2. D'Antoni can't coach. You wasted a full time out only to get Amare a 3 point shot with 11 ticks to go????
    :rolleyes:
     
  16. apostolic3

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    Right here and now, Amare is way better than Yao. On offense, there is no discussion. On defense, Yao has the advantage, except for the dumb fouls that reduce his playing time.

    Both guys have some developing to do. Amare will continue varying his offensive skills around the basket and developing the mid-range shot. On defense, he must learn how to play consistent. Some of his blocks are awesome but overall he is not very good. Yao also destroys teams when he is single covered, but he must be more consistent and bring it every game. We still don't know which Yao will show up from game to game during the season. Three simple steps for him next year would be to stop the silly fouls, dumb turnovers and play more minutes. Doing these would put him pretty close to 25 & 10. One of these years, Yao will develop into a "go to guy" like Amare already is.

    Both are great players to have on your team.

    steddinotayto, did Q disappear or what during the playoffs? He will never live down today's doughnut hole. What a choker!
     
  17. BigSexy

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    I agree totally. D'Antoni's weaknesses as a coach have been thoroughly exposed this series.
    Nash and Stoudemire can get theirs, but Marion is their most dynamic player, and if contained you can see what the end result is.
    You cannot suddenly say that apart from Nash and Stoudemire, the rest of the suns suck. Nash and Stoudemire were not the only ones to contribute to their 60+ win season. Marion, if you recall was and is and all-star as well.
     
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    Amare was indeed awesome tonight. He's an awesome physical speciman with tremendous athetic talent and great desire.

    But you have to remember, he is playing with a special player whose entire game is predicated on getting the ball to Amare, Marion, JJ, and Q. Take Nash away from Amare and replace Nash with Sura and you will see Amare's statistics take a dive. Yes, he would still be very good.

    Stoudemire doesn't make any of his teammates better, rather Nash makes him much better.

    I think that Stoudemire is great and will be great in the future.


    Still, if we had the draft to do over again, I'd still pick Yao. I think the future years will tell why. Yao may never have the statistics that Amare does but I believe Yao gives the Rockets a better opportunity to win more championships than Amare would.
     
  19. nyc2k2

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    stoudamire will have much less impact without Steve N. Without Nash, Sun can not win 42 games a season.
     
  20. steddinotayto

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    i always thought he was overrated. SERIOUSLY. when he won the 3pt contest this year, everyone made him out to be a perimeter threat. Please. I told some of my friends, "if they had put MadMax into the 3 pt contest one year and he caught fire, he could have won it as well'. He's like a poor man's Maxwell in that sure he can light it up if he catches fire, but he don't drive and create like Maxwell did.

    If Q could drive and penetrate like Joe Johnson did, he wouldn't have had that donut hole.

    And D'Antoni....his coaching deficiencies were magnified against the Mavericks. You take any coach that can diagram plays and put him in place of D'Antoni, they would have destroyed the Mavs in 5 games.

    But back on topic, Amare is head and shoulders better offensively than Yao. But we also have to note that Amare is an athlete whereas Yao is not. Amare reminds me of a Kemp-in-his-prime-1996 than Hakeem. Amare's taller and stronger, but they both have that athleticism and that 15 footer. Amare don't have Hakeem's footwork (yet?) nor his defensive capabilities. But the dude can ball.
     

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