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One good rebounding performance and all the Yao rebound-bashing threads disappear?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by GMAC, Dec 23, 2008.

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  1. GMAC

    GMAC Member

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    Come on, guys. Let's show some consistency. If you're going to bash Yao, you better do it every night. Take tonight for instance. 16 boards? PSH...he should have had 20!! Stupid lanky flatfooted stiff!!

    :rolleyes: sarcasm
     
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    Yao can be good rebounder sometimes,but I wish he would do it everytime, he defenitely has the skills and height to get at least 12 rebounds a game but he seems to let his teammates grab it sometimes, when he should be taking it like Dwight and Camby take it from their teammates.
     
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    this shows that he can be a good rebounder and it's not all of those excuses yao apologists bring out. he just has to want it.

    hopefully he can get 10+ rebounds in most games, esp. in the big games.
     
  4. GMAC

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    I've said it before. Yao's clearly pacing himself. No need to risk injury or burning out in the early season, especially in games that result in Wins.
     
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    Individual rebounding numbers in a given game mean very little. As with almost any game, there were a number of rebounds that Yao could have gotten if he was a better rebounder, but he just didn't. Sometimes the other team just misses a lot more shots, and sometimes the ball bounces your way. That doesn't mean you're all of a sudden a good rebounder. And it certainly doesn't show that Yao can get double digit rebounds any time he wants.

    People make too big a deal about stats in a single game or even small handful of games. Yao's rebounding numbers, over a large stretch of games, shows that he's decent, but not great. It'll never be a strength of his, and we should just accept that. Why should we expect him to be a great rebounder just because he's 7'6, when we see every game how he struggles just to win jump balls?
     
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    Explain why he wants it some nights but not others.
     
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    Some nights you see him trying to get rebounds, sometimes you dont. Today I saw him take some rebounds from his teammates but usually he lets them have it.
     
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    Oh, I'm sure some night Yao just "doesn't want" to rebound.

    :rolleyes:
     
  9. Shaud

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    Well Congrats on making a thread that will end up with people bashing Yao.
     
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    I see rebounding as a skill that can be improved upon. We complain about plenty of things here that probably won't ever change, i don't see why this one should be shrugged off.
     
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    Thank you. One good rebounding game from Yao doesn't deserve a knee-jerk thread.
     
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    Who gives a crap if he's taking rebounds from his teammates? That's empty stat-padding -- it has no impact whatsoever on winning. Did you see him taking rebounds away from the other team?

    Yao did what he always does. He's big, and he's got a lot of weight, so he's difficult for other teams to push him around. So he boxed out, and if the rebound came to him he got it. Sometimes he was a bit slow reacting, and the ball sailed past him. You take the good, and you take the bad. He's not going to change.
     
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    A lot of posters here pretends they are Houstonians and is a Rockets fan. But you can tell clearly who is telling the truth and who's not.

    Just try to notice some certain posters who will show up only to talk about Yao. These same posters are guaranteed to show up if Yao performed poorly, coupled with Rockets losing, and they would start to talk about how their grandma could grab 20 rebounds and dunk.

    A true fans will post good and bad thing, and also will not show up only to bash a certain player.
     
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    Rebounding is a function of instincts, desire and athleticism. Yao is 28 years-old and this is his 7th year in the NBA. His rebounding won't be improving.
     
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    That's the point of this thread. I'm asking the haters to show some consistency. Every time Yao Ming plays a solid game, they disappear off the face of the earth and lurk until there is a let down.
     
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    Historically, it is rare for centers to improve their rebounding later in their careers -- rebounds and blocks usually start high and then slope downwards.

    Yao's problem isn't technique. He just doesn't have the physical ability to react quickly and pursue the ball, nor the instincts to know before hand where and how the ball is going to bounce off the rim. So why does Yao some time get high rebounding games, and sometimes low rebounding games? Does that suggest an inconsistent mentality? In my opinion, no. That variability could be just as easily explained by the variability in the number of shots that happen to bounce towards him in each game.
     
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    According to Yahoo Sports, Houston is the sixth best rebounding team with 43.5 rebounds per game.

    We also give up 41.3 rebounds, which is above average but not great.

    On the Rockets, Yao is the top rebounder, averaging 9.5 rebounds per game. That's almost two rebounds more per game than the next player, Scola (7.6 rebounds).

    Just throwing that out there.
     
  18. badgerfan

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    Bingo. Yao simply does not have the lateral speed or quickness on his feet to chase balls that bounce away from him.

    On the other hand his height gives him a huge advantage under the basket. We've all see the games where he misses a lay up and then tips the ball to himself 3 or 4 times in a row.
     
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    One more thing. I guess the better question may be how consistent are the Rockets as a rebounding team. If the team average is 43.5 rebounds, how much does that fluctuate from game to game?
     
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    just like tonight why he dunks everything and others he just lays it up. i don't know. ask yao ming. sometimes he wonders about it himself (he asked to himself why he only got 4 rebounds after the memphis game earlier after the loss).
     

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