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One foot fadeaway - is it a travel?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by DarkHorse, Jun 9, 2010.

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Simple question: yes or no?

  1. Yes: it's legal

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  2. No: it's travelling

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    30.6%
  1. DarkHorse

    DarkHorse Member

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    One foot fadeaway - is it legal?

    Simple question.

    Post player establishes a pivot foot. Assume he's right-handed and he's pivoting off his right foot, jabbing with his left foot.

    He then spins to the right, stepping back and to the left with his left foot, (his pivot foot comes off the ground) leans back, and shoots.

    No question that if his pivot foot is still on the ground when he jumps that it's a legal jumpshot.

    The dispute is whether or not he can lift his pivot foot before shooting legally. I'm personally torn on the subject, but this was a major dispute tonight.
     
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  2. RoxSqaud

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    Says No....
     
  3. DarkHorse

    DarkHorse Member

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    No offense, but "they do it in the NBA all the time" isn't a very good argument for "it's a legal move."

    :grin:
     
  4. RoxSqaud

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    Yea...I know... :cool:

    I actually think it should be called a travel....I mean if your stationary foot leaves the floor and your pivot foot stays....thats.....a travel....right?? :confused:
     
  5. YaosDirtyStache

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    Wouldnt your pivot foot be the stationary foot? Maybe Ive been taught wrong my whole life!
     
  6. RoxSqaud

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    Oh man....I ****ed that all up...

    Yall get what I mean tho...
     
  7. YaosDirtyStache

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    I got what you mean!

    On topic, it should not be a travel...traveling is subjective by nature, and in my view I think if you are that close to the basket you should be allowed to free some room up between you, the basket, sidelines, and defender...otherwise you would be throwing up a crazy shot.
     
  8. OGKashMoney

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    If you are going to allow that, then why can't big men be allowed to take the baby shuffles if they are too deep under the basket? Just saying . . .
     
  9. tierre_brown

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    So just because you would have to throw up a crazy shot, you should be allowed to take an extra step? No wonder LeBron gets away with his crab dribble/hop step/carry BS, he should be allowed to take that extra step to avoid throwing up a crazy shot!
     
  10. Asian Sensation

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    Are you in your mid 30's to early 40's? white? about 20 some odd pounds out of shape and do you play at your local gym trying to impersonate the Dream Shake in a pickup game? Then yes. It is a travel cause you have no athleticism, coordination or lift on your jumper.
     
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    I believe in this scenario, the player is OK as long as the ball is released before his right foot returns to the court. Basically he can lift that foot but the ball must be passed or shot immediately.
     
  12. Steve_Francis_rules

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    I think it's a travel, but I haven't actually looked at the wording of the rules.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Is it not covered by the TWO STEPS RULE?

    I mean If you Jab stepping . . . Do you get one step before you have to dribble?

    Rocket River
     
  14. rhadamanthus

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    WTF?

    Traveling is one of the very few basketball fouls that is NOT subjective at all. Man the NBA has really ****ed up basketball. Sheesh.

     
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  15. Al Calavicci

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    I don't really see how a one foot fadeaway is any different than a regular jumpshot when it comes to traveling - finish before your feet (or pivot foot you lifted) get back to the ground
     
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    Not a travel.

    Think of it this way: if you are going up for a shot, why does the order your feet leave the ground matter?
     
  17. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    If you guys are accepting that the one foot (non-pivot) fadeaway is legit, then the one foot (non-pivot) leaner is legit as well when you do an up and under step through. This would be a huge advantage in my game because I don't get much lift leaning on one leg and trying to jump off both.
     
  18. DarkHorse

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    I looked up the rule, and my personal interpretation is that it's legal because the pivot foot hasn't returned to the floor.

    On the other hand, I scoured the internet looking for videos for how to shoot a fadeaway, and in every case the shooter jumped off both feet, so it makes me wonder.

    Anyway, it's an interesting topic.
     
  19. v3.0

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    Yeah we know you meant "squad"...
     
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