On/Off Court +/- so far this season

Francis with +15.5 FTW!

 

Interesting, I wouldn't have imagined that Mike James' +/- would be so bad. Good post.

 

Sort of a worthless stat as if you play with the better players you are going to have an inflated +/-

DD

 

i didn't know mike james was having such an adverse effect on the team. im also surprised head is positive because i've been dismayed by his decision-making every time he's played. maybe a combination of head and francis would work, letting francis run point and freeing head to get back to focusing only on cutting/shooting. the dude simply should never be put in a position where he has to make a decision; other than that, he's still a great shooter and has gotten decent at finishing.

 

Everytime i check the boxscores for our games, i usually see negatives:S
Maybe its just a coincidence when i check them though. Also, how can Rafer's still be positive and Scola's remain negative?? Outdated I'm guessing?

 

With all due respect, these numbers are pretty worthless at this point in time. In my opinion. It helps to watch the games.

 

+/- numbers are always misleading. its the most useless stat in the world.

 

+/- stats are how much you produce versus how much your opponent produces when you are on the floor.

They aren't useless if you look at them with a critical eye.

It can tell you which group plays best together offensively and defensively.

Just because you are playing with two stars on the court at the same time doesn't mean that your numbers are going be inflated by them. One, no player is going to play all their minutes with the same combo on the court. Two it doesn't just show offense, but defense as well. If the other team scores 5 points as opposed to the 10 points your team has scored when you are on the court you have a +5 for that sequence. Blocks, steals, missed shots all contribute to the differential for that time period.

Saying plus minus stats mean nothing, is the same as saying point differential means nothing.

I think its best to look at them during the flow of a game... like at the popcorn machine. http://www.popcornmachine.net/GameFlows.html Then you see the +/- combination of units that we use in a game flow situation.

 

Its interesting looking at the most used lineups

The most frequently (BAD) used lineups

#2 James-Head-Wells-Scola-Yao (44 W%) -5
#7 James-Wells-McGrady-Scola-Yao (40 W%) +2
#8 James-Wells-McGrady-Battier-Yao (25 W%) -15
#9 James-Alston-McGrady-Battier-Yao (33 W%) -14
#13 James-McGrady-Battier-Scola-Yao (50 W%) -7
#14 James-Wells-McGrady-Scola-Mutombo (0%) -10

They all involve James for some reason, but he also rarely plays with the same starting unit Rafer does and when he does hes +3 but hes only played 7 minutes with them to Rafers 181 so it doesnt really mean anything. James best lineup is when the Rockets play small out there with Yao, Wells and Battier up front.

 

Totally worthless isolated stat. Cases in point...

SAS:
Ginobili +25.1
Duncan +8.3
Parker +2.9
Barry +2.3
Oberto +1.7
Vaughn +11.1
Every single Spur not listed above is a MINUS including Michael Finley & BRUCE BOWEN!

DAL:
Fazekas +13.7
Nowitzki +20.4
Terry +4.4
Jo.Howard +13.0
Harris +11.8
Barea +7.0
Diop +13.3
E. Jones +2.2
Ager +6.1

Every single Maverick not listed above is a MINUS including Jerry Stackhouse, Brandon Bass, Dampier and Hassell.

PHX:
Nash +14.8
Barbosa +7.7
Stoudemire +12.5
Hill +20.5
Marion +3.1
Strawberry +9.7

Every single Sun not listed above is a MINUS including Brian Skinner, Eric Piatkowsi, BORIS DIAW and RAJA BELL.

 

For more +/- data for different 5-man lineups, take a look at this:

http://basketballvalue.com/teamunits.php?year=2007-2008&team=HOU

It even offers the raw data in spread sheet form, so if you can determine +/- and On/Off numbers for different combinations of players and against various opponents.

I agree with some posters above that we shouldn't make too much out of these numbers in the first month of the season. Strong +/- for the starting players is largely due to playing with the Big Two. But I do think that Shane and Chuck complement Tracy and Yao very well.

 

Adjusted +/- numbers mean more.

Which by the way shows Mike James with negative numbers for 2005-2006 season and 2006-2007 season. I'm not even sure that Mike James had positive +/- numbers during his Toronto Season. Wait...just checked. Mike James had a -113 for the Toronto Season. He played in 79 games so that means he had an overall impact of -1.43 per game.

This means that even though he put up a lot of points with the Raptors, it also means he gave up a lot of points, lost the ball, and missed a lot of shots and maybe got beat on defense. He still shot the same rate he did at Minnesota that he did at Toronto. He just played a lot less minutes at Minnesota. Which means that Mike James really isn't that efficient of a basketball player.

 

82games shows Mike's On/Off differential was positive in Toronto. Not sure about his adjusted +/- that year.

 

Mikes Lenovo +/- numbers were negative for the 2005-2006 season. The Lenovo numbers show the plus/minus statistic that looks at the point differential when players are both in and out of the game. This is a simplified number rather than the complex adjusted +/- calcultation.

His adjusted +/- numbers from 82 games shows he had a positive 6.07 so you are correct Durvasa. I tend to trust the Adjusted +/- numbers more which means I have to tip my hate to you for pointing that out.

Adjusted plus-minus statistics take into account everything a player does on the court that affects the game. This includes things that many other statistics measure, like scoring a basket, but it also includes things like setting a good screen, or playing good man-to-man defense which are difficult to track. Another set of effects that are often missed but are accounted for here are inter-player effects. For instance, if having a three-point shooter on the floor opens up court for other players and causes them to play better when one is in the game, then the three-point shooter will get credit for this even if he doesn’t take any shots.

Adjusted plus-minus statistics are descriptive statistics, just like points per game, field goal percentage, rebounds per game, etc. Points per game describes how many points, on average a player scores in a game. Field goal percentage describes the ratio of a player’s shots made to his shots attempted. Adjusted plus-minus describes the average performance of the team with a given player in the game, taking into account the other nine players on the court.


http://www.82games.com/lewin2b.htm

Just for kicks, here is the entire list of adjusted +/- numbers for the 2005-2006 NBA Season.

2005-2006 Adjusted Plus-Minus Ratings
By David Lewin
The following table shows the adjusted plus/minus ratings for 2005-06 for all players, sorted by team and then rating. Players appearing on more than one team will only show a rating for the most prominent team of that season.

For the full discussion of these numbers see the adjusted plus/minus article.

Team Player Min. Rating
Atlanta Hawks Marvin Williams 49% 4.74
Atlanta Hawks Tyronn Lue 31% 0.39
Atlanta Hawks Esteban Batista 12% 0.25
Atlanta Hawks Al Harrington 70% 0.23
Atlanta Hawks Royal Ivey 25% -0.31
Atlanta Hawks Josh Smith 64% -0.41
Atlanta Hawks Zaza Pachulia 62% -0.44
Atlanta Hawks Josh Childress 57% -0.47
Atlanta Hawks Joe Johnson 84% -1.46
Atlanta Hawks Salim Stoudamire 31% -3.69
Atlanta Hawks John Edwards 7% -12.13
Atlanta Hawks Tony Delk 0% -13.12
Boston Celtics Delonte West 61% 7.56
Boston Celtics Ricky Davis 44% 7.38
Boston Celtics Tony Allen 25% 3.36
Boston Celtics Paul Pierce 78% 2.07
Boston Celtics Ryan Gomes 35% 1.31
Boston Celtics Orien Greene 31% -0.12
Boston Celtics Gerald Green 9% -1.80
Boston Celtics Brian Scalabrine 24% -2.22
Boston Celtics Kendrick Perkins 34% -4.22
Boston Celtics Raef LaFrentz 51% -4.57
Boston Celtics Al Jefferson 27% -8.49
Boston Celtics Mark Blount 27%
Boston Celtics Michael Olowokandi 4%
Boston Celtics Wally Szczerbiak 30%
Boston Celtics Marcus Banks 7%
Boston Celtics Justin Reed 7%
Charlotte Bobcats Gerald Wallace 48% 7.19
Charlotte Bobcats Emeka Okafor 22% 5.16
Charlotte Bobcats Kevin Burleson 9% 4.57
Charlotte Bobcats Raymond Felton 61% 4.35
Charlotte Bobcats Alan Anderson 14% 3.16
Charlotte Bobcats Brevin Knight 59% 3.02
Charlotte Bobcats Bernard Robinson 33% 1.41
Charlotte Bobcats Matt Carroll 32% -0.09
Charlotte Bobcats Jake Voskuhl 21% -1.14
Charlotte Bobcats Melvin Ely 34% -1.24
Charlotte Bobcats Jumaine Jones 53% -2.89
Charlotte Bobcats Sean May 10% -3.81
Charlotte Bobcats Keith Bogans 21% -4.72
Charlotte Bobcats Kareem Rush 28% -5.49
Charlotte Bobcats Primoz Brezec 54% -11.91
Charlotte Bobcats Lonny Baxter 3%
Chicago Bulls Luol Deng 66% 7.57
Chicago Bulls Tyson Chandler 53% 6.93
Chicago Bulls Malik Allen 18% 3.67
Chicago Bulls Darius Songaila 33% 2.45
Chicago Bulls Andres Nocioni 56% 0.28
Chicago Bulls Ben Gordon 62% -0.25
Chicago Bulls Jannero Pargo 16% -0.89
Chicago Bulls Michael Sweetney 31% -0.97
Chicago Bulls Othella Harrington 21% -1.21
Chicago Bulls Kirk Hinrich 74% -1.70
Chicago Bulls Chris Duhon 54% -3.25
Chicago Bulls Tim Thomas 1%
Cleveland Cavaliers LeBron James 85% 19.59
Cleveland Cavaliers Eric Snow 59% 5.93
Cleveland Cavaliers Anderson Varejao 19% 2.48
Cleveland Cavaliers Larry Hughes 32% 2.22
Cleveland Cavaliers Ira Newble 9% 1.51
Cleveland Cavaliers Damon Jones 53% 1.14
Cleveland Cavaliers Alaksandar Pavlovic 20% -0.62
Cleveland Cavaliers Zydrunas Ilgauskas 57% -4.06
Cleveland Cavaliers Luke Jackson 8% -6.41
Cleveland Cavaliers Donyell Marshall 52% -8.48
Cleveland Cavaliers Alan Henderson 13% -10.16
Cleveland Cavaliers Drew Gooden 55% -12.52
Cleveland Cavaliers Ronald Murray 26%
Cleveland Cavaliers Mike Wilks 6%
Dallas Mavericks Dirk Nowitzki 78% 10.52
Dallas Mavericks DeSagana Diop 38% 4.61
Dallas Mavericks Jason Terry 70% 3.64
Dallas Mavericks Erick Dampier 49% 3.56
Dallas Mavericks Josh Howard 48% 1.28
Dallas Mavericks Keith Van Horn 27% 0.87
Dallas Mavericks Adrian Griffin 31% -0.38
Dallas Mavericks Darrell Armstrong 16% -1.23
Dallas Mavericks Devin Harris 32% -1.59
Dallas Mavericks Marquis Daniels 44% -1.68
Dallas Mavericks Josh Powell 11% -2.81
Dallas Mavericks Jerry Stackhouse 38% -4.82
Denver Nuggets Andre Miller 74% 6.62
Denver Nuggets Earl Watson 25% 6.41
Denver Nuggets Kenyon Martin 39% 2.64
Denver Nuggets Greg Buckner 44% 2.05
Denver Nuggets Marcus Camby 47% 1.55
Denver Nuggets Linas Kleiza 13% 1.52
Denver Nuggets Eduardo Najera 36% 0.19
Denver Nuggets Francisco Elson 40% -0.43
Denver Nuggets Carmelo Anthony 74% -0.49
Denver Nuggets Voshon Lenard 6% -2.59
Denver Nuggets DerMarr Johnson 23% -2.73
Denver Nuggets Howard Eisley 7% -6.08
Denver Nuggets Earl Boykins 39% -7.67
Denver Nuggets Reggie Evans 15%
Denver Nuggets Ruben Patterson 18%
Detroit Pistons Rasheed Wallace 70% 20.20
Detroit Pistons Ben Wallace 73% 17.92
Detroit Pistons Antonio McDyess 44% 9.24
Detroit Pistons Lindsey Hunter 9% 6.52
Detroit Pistons Chauncey Billups 74% 3.72
Detroit Pistons Carlos Arroyo 15% 3.33
Detroit Pistons Tayshaun Prince 73% -3.25
Detroit Pistons Maurice Evans 29% -10.85
Detroit Pistons Carlos Delfino 18% -15.29
Detroit Pistons Richard Hamilton 71% -17.90
Detroit Pistons Kelvin Cato 1%
Detroit Pistons Tony Delk 9%
Detroit Pistons Darko Milicic 4%
Golden State Warriors Jason Richardson 72% 10.53
Golden State Warriors Baron Davis 50% 7.83
Golden State Warriors Monta Ellis 22% 6.00
Golden State Warriors Derek Fisher 65% 5.42
Golden State Warriors Andris Biedrins 25% 0.77
Golden State Warriors Mike Dunleavy 65% -1.65
Golden State Warriors Adonal Foyle 46% -2.14
Golden State Warriors Mickael Pietrus 30% -5.52
Golden State Warriors Ike Diogu 26% -8.54
Golden State Warriors Troy Murphy 63% -8.70
Golden State Warriors Zarko Cabarkapa 13% -9.52
Golden State Warriors Calbert Cheaney 11% -15.17
Houston Rockets Yao Ming 49% 13.63
Houston Rockets Charles Hayes 13% 9.18
Houston Rockets Tracy McGrady 44% 7.83
Houston Rockets Dikembe Mutombo 24% 6.57
Houston Rockets Luther Head 58% 4.97
Houston Rockets Lonny Baxter 7% 3.27
Houston Rockets Rafer Alston 61% -0.13
Houston Rockets David Wesley 60% -0.86
Houston Rockets Derek Anderson 15% -1.20
Houston Rockets Ryan Bowen 16% -3.04
Houston Rockets Moochie Norris 6% -5.80
Houston Rockets Stromile Swift 34% -7.70
Houston Rockets Jon Barry 9% -9.53
Houston Rockets Juwan Howard 64% -11.77
Houston Rockets Keith Bogans 27%
Houston Rockets Richie Frahm 3%
Indiana Pacers Jeff Foster 40% 6.72
Indiana Pacers Anthony Johnson 50% 6.02
Indiana Pacers Scot Pollard 19% 5.35
Indiana Pacers Austin Croshere 29% 2.96
Indiana Pacers Sarunas Jasikevicius 39% 1.45
Indiana Pacers Jamaal Tinsley 28% 0.76
Indiana Pacers Jermaine O'Neal 45% 0.69
Indiana Pacers Peja Stojakovic 37% 0.34
Indiana Pacers David Harrison 26% -0.51
Indiana Pacers Fred Jones 46% -1.96
Indiana Pacers Danny Granger 44% -3.14
Indiana Pacers Stephen Jackson 73% -4.92
Indiana Pacers Ron Artest 15%
Los Angeles Clippers Corey Maggette 24% 7.52
Los Angeles Clippers Quinton Ross 38% 7.03
Los Angeles Clippers Elton Brand 78% 5.33
Los Angeles Clippers Cuttino Mobley 75% 3.13
Los Angeles Clippers Walter McCarty 9% -0.08
Los Angeles Clippers Chris Kaman 64% -0.38
Los Angeles Clippers Sam Cassell 67% -0.51
Los Angeles Clippers James Singleton 19% -1.49
Los Angeles Clippers Shaun Livingston 38% -2.91
Los Angeles Clippers Daniel Ewing 24% -3.40
Los Angeles Clippers Zeljko Rebraca 10% -18.60
Los Angeles Clippers Howard Eisley 3%
Los Angeles Clippers Vladimir Radmanovic 22%
Los Angeles Clippers Chris Wilcox 17%
Los Angeles Lakers Kobe Bryant 82% 14.34
Los Angeles Lakers Lamar Odom 81% 4.20
Los Angeles Lakers Smush Parker 70% 2.95
Los Angeles Lakers Sasha Vujacic 36% 1.12
Los Angeles Lakers Luke Walton 34% -0.05
Los Angeles Lakers Devean George 39% -0.27
Los Angeles Lakers Brian Cook 39% -2.85
Los Angeles Lakers Laron Profit 7% -5.53
Los Angeles Lakers Kwame Brown 50% -8.05
Los Angeles Lakers Chris Mihm 39% -9.66
Los Angeles Lakers Andrew Bynum 9% -14.78
Los Angeles Lakers Jim Jackson 2%
Memphis Grizzlies Brian Cardinal 10% 10.27
Memphis Grizzlies Jake Tsakalidis 18% 9.28
Memphis Grizzlies Shane Battier 71% 6.00
Memphis Grizzlies Bobby Jackson 45% 5.51
Memphis Grizzlies Pau Gasol 79% 4.87
Memphis Grizzlies Eddie Jones 61% 3.19
Memphis Grizzlies Lorenzen Wright 42% 0.38
Memphis Grizzlies Damon Stoudamire 22% 0.01
Memphis Grizzlies Mike Miller 57% -3.53
Memphis Grizzlies Antonio Burks 14% -3.68
Memphis Grizzlies Chucky Atkins 29% -4.11
Memphis Grizzlies Hakim Warrick 18% -5.71
Memphis Grizzlies Dahntay Jones 24% -11.85
Miami Heat Alonzo Mourning 33% 11.78
Miami Heat Dwyane Wade 73% 9.57
Miami Heat Shaquille O'Neal 45% 9.12
Miami Heat Udonis Haslem 63% 3.96
Miami Heat Wayne Simien 10% 3.71
Miami Heat Shandon Anderson 16% 2.08
Miami Heat Antoine Walker 55% 0.49
Miami Heat James Posey 48% -1.21
Miami Heat Jason Williams 47% -4.85
Miami Heat Gary Payton 58% -5.47
Miami Heat Jason Kapono 17% -11.52
Miami Heat Michael Doleac 9% -12.19
Miami Heat Derek Anderson 12%
Milwaukee Bucks Michael Redd 79% 7.91
Milwaukee Bucks Charlie Bell 32% 4.43
Milwaukee Bucks Andrew Bogut 59% 4.09
Milwaukee Bucks Bobby Simmons 64% 3.43
Milwaukee Bucks T.J. Ford 64% 2.63
Milwaukee Bucks Toni Kukoc 26% 0.61
Milwaukee Bucks Maurice Williams 39% -2.07
Milwaukee Bucks Dan Gadzuric 22% -2.59
Milwaukee Bucks Joe Smith 22% -5.29
Milwaukee Bucks Jamaal Magloire 62% -9.23
Milwaukee Bucks Jiri Welsch 22% -11.65
Minnesota Timberwolves Marko Jaric 53% 8.61
Minnesota Timberwolves Kevin Garnett 74% 8.05
Minnesota Timberwolves Wally Szczerbiak 39% 4.10
Minnesota Timberwolves Richie Frahm 6% 2.58
Minnesota Timberwolves Troy Hudson 20% 1.17
Minnesota Timberwolves Marcus Banks 31% -0.63
Minnesota Timberwolves Anthony Carter 15% -1.45
Minnesota Timberwolves Mark Madsen 17% -2.20
Minnesota Timberwolves Rashad McCants 34% -2.97
Minnesota Timberwolves Trenton Hassell 63% -3.03
Minnesota Timberwolves Justin Reed 18% -5.10
Minnesota Timberwolves Ron Dupree 7% -6.81
Minnesota Timberwolves Mark Blount 29% -7.24
Minnesota Timberwolves Eddie Griffin 34% -8.06
Minnesota Timberwolves Michael Olowokandi 19% -13.39
Minnesota Timberwolves Ricky Davis 37%
New Jersey Nets Vince Carter 73% 7.78
New Jersey Nets Jason Kidd 75% 5.90
New Jersey Nets Richard Jefferson 77% 2.46
New Jersey Nets Nenad Krstic 62% 2.09
New Jersey Nets Zoran Planinic 15% 1.55
New Jersey Nets Lamond Murray 14% 0.93
New Jersey Nets Cliff Robinson 47% -2.08
New Jersey Nets Jason Collins 48% -2.92
New Jersey Nets Scott Padgett 18% -3.41
New Jersey Nets Antoine Wright 9% -6.29
New Jersey Nets Jacque Vaughn 31% -6.99
New Jersey Nets Jeff McInnis 12% -19.54
New Jersey Nets Marc Jackson 11%
New Jersey Nets Bostjan Nachbar 2%
New Jersey Nets Linton Johnson 1%
New Orleans Hornets Chris Paul 71% 10.22
New Orleans Hornets Kirk Snyder 33% 9.50
New Orleans Hornets Speedy Claxton 51% 7.66
New Orleans Hornets J.R. Smith 25% 1.48
New Orleans Hornets Jackson Vroman 10% 0.54
New Orleans Hornets Rasual Butler 47% -1.74
New Orleans Hornets Marc Jackson 15% -1.80
New Orleans Hornets P.J. Brown 60% -2.37
New Orleans Hornets Chris Andersen 14% -2.82
New Orleans Hornets Linton Johnson 12% -3.32
New Orleans Hornets Bostjan Nachbar 10% -3.39
New Orleans Hornets David West 64% -5.71
New Orleans Hornets Aaron Williams 17% -7.89
New Orleans Hornets Desmond Mason 53% -9.62
New Orleans Hornets Brandon Bass 7% -9.76
New Orleans Hornets Moochie Norris 5%
New York Knicks Jackie Butler 19% 8.78
New York Knicks Stephon Marbury 55% 7.57
New York Knicks Nate Robinson 39% 7.09
New York Knicks Trevor Ariza 18% 5.96
New York Knicks Jamal Crawford 64% -1.01
New York Knicks Quentin Richardson 36% -1.06
New York Knicks Channing Frye 40% -1.40
New York Knicks Qyntel Woods 25% -1.68
New York Knicks David Lee 28% -2.18
New York Knicks Maurice Taylor 30% -3.79
New York Knicks Malik Rose 28% -5.90
New York Knicks Eddy Curry 47% -8.26
New York Knicks Antonio Davis 19% -11.11
New York Knicks Jerome James 10% -16.00
New York Knicks Steve Francis 16%
New York Knicks Jalen Rose 19%
New York Knicks Matt Barnes 2%
Orlando Magic Jameer Nelson 45% 7.11
Orlando Magic Dwight Howard 76% 6.00
Orlando Magic Stacey Augmon 10% 6.00
Orlando Magic Keyon Dooling 29% 3.74
Orlando Magic Hedo Turkoglu 66% 2.81
Orlando Magic Steve Francis 44% 0.05
Orlando Magic Grant Hill 15% -0.18
Orlando Magic Tony Battie 56% -1.92
Orlando Magic Pat Garrity 24% -4.14
Orlando Magic Darko Milicic 16% -4.85
Orlando Magic Kelvin Cato 8% -7.42
Orlando Magic DeShawn Stevenson 67% -7.86
Orlando Magic Bo Outlaw 9% -7.95
Orlando Magic Carlos Arroyo 15%
Orlando Magic Trevor Ariza 7%
Philadelphia 76ers Andre Iguodala 78% 11.60
Philadelphia 76ers Allen Iverson 78% 7.38
Philadelphia 76ers Matt Barnes 14% 6.94
Philadelphia 76ers Shavlik Randolph 12% 5.60
Philadelphia 76ers Steven Hunter 33% -0.16
Philadelphia 76ers Kyle Korver 65% -3.40
Philadelphia 76ers Samuel Dalembert 44% -3.40
Philadelphia 76ers John Salmons 52% -5.47
Philadelphia 76ers Chris Webber 73% -5.77
Philadelphia 76ers Kevin Ollie 27% -6.37
Philadelphia 76ers Michael Bradley 9% -11.77
Phoenix Suns Steve Nash 70% 9.63
Phoenix Suns Boris Diaw 72% 8.86
Phoenix Suns Shawn Marion 82% 1.69
Phoenix Suns Kurt Thomas 36% 1.58
Phoenix Suns Leandro Barbosa 40% -0.14
Phoenix Suns Eddie House 36% -0.20
Phoenix Suns James Jones 45% -0.97
Phoenix Suns Raja Bell 74% -2.62
Phoenix Suns Tim Thomas 16% -3.86
Phoenix Suns Jim Jackson 11% -4.66
Phoenix Suns Pat Burke 9% -10.89
Phoenix Suns Andre Barrett 1%
Portland Trail Blazers Joel Przybilla 35% 7.96
Portland Trail Blazers Darius Miles 32% 7.87
Portland Trail Blazers Theo Ratliff 33% 6.84
Portland Trail Blazers Viktor Khryapa 38% 3.31
Portland Trail Blazers Zach Randolph 64% 2.93
Portland Trail Blazers Ruben Patterson 27% 2.89
Portland Trail Blazers Travis Outlaw 29% 0.66
Portland Trail Blazers Brian Skinner 13% -1.03
Portland Trail Blazers Juan Dixon 48% -5.87
Portland Trail Blazers Sebastian Telfair 41% -7.26
Portland Trail Blazers Martell Webster 27% -7.31
Portland Trail Blazers Steve Blake 45% -8.14
Portland Trail Blazers Jarrett Jack 40% -9.41
Portland Trail Blazers Voshon Lenard 6%
Portland Trail Blazers Sergei Monia 8%
Sacramento Kings Ron Artest 40% 11.83
Sacramento Kings Brad Miller 73% 11.07
Sacramento Kings Corliss Williamson 9% 6.60
Sacramento Kings Shareef Abdur-Rahim 49% 6.09
Sacramento Kings Kenny Thomas 58% -1.34
Sacramento Kings Bonzi Wells 42% -3.25
Sacramento Kings Francisco Garcia 33% -3.44
Sacramento Kings Kevin Martin 48% -3.60
Sacramento Kings Mike Bibby 80% -5.29
Sacramento Kings Jason Hart 21% -7.38
Sacramento Kings Sergei Monia 0% -24.86
Sacramento Kings Vitaly Potapenko 1%
Sacramento Kings Brian Skinner 11%
Sacramento Kings Peja Stojakovic 29%
San Antonio Spurs Manu Ginobili 46% 10.01
San Antonio Spurs Brent Barry 32% 9.43
San Antonio Spurs Tony Parker 68% 8.04
San Antonio Spurs Tim Duncan 70% 3.25
San Antonio Spurs Robert Horry 30% 2.93
San Antonio Spurs Bruce Bowen 69% 0.36
San Antonio Spurs Michael Finley 51% 0.36
San Antonio Spurs Rasho Nesterovic 38% 0.27
San Antonio Spurs Beno Udrih 15% -0.96
San Antonio Spurs Nazr Mohammed 35% -4.52
San Antonio Spurs Fabricio Oberto 12% -8.07
San Antonio Spurs Nick Van Exel 25% -9.26
Seattle Supersonics Ray Allen 76% 9.84
Seattle Supersonics Danny Fortson 7% 6.56
Seattle Supersonics Mikki Moore 15% 3.47
Seattle Supersonics Nick Collison 36% 2.92
Seattle Supersonics Mike Wilks 3% 2.57
Seattle Supersonics Chris Wilcox 22% 2.50
Seattle Supersonics Vladimir Radmanovic 27% 0.64
Seattle Supersonics Ronald Murray 27% -0.60
Seattle Supersonics Rashard Lewis 72% -1.43
Seattle Supersonics Luke Ridnour 66% -1.99
Seattle Supersonics Vitaly Potapenko 8% -4.20
Seattle Supersonics Robert Swift 25% -5.10
Seattle Supersonics Johan Petro 32% -6.34
Seattle Supersonics Reggie Evans 20% -6.59
Seattle Supersonics Damien Wilkins 38% -6.94
Seattle Supersonics Earl Watson 15%
Toronto Raptors Darrick Martin 9% 11.58
Toronto Raptors Chris Bosh 69% 6.72
Toronto Raptors Mike James 74% 6.07
Toronto Raptors Andre Barrett 7% 4.19
Toronto Raptors Loren Woods 8% 2.68
Toronto Raptors Charlie Villanueva 59% 2.56
Toronto Raptors Jalen Rose 31% -1.59
Toronto Raptors Jose Calderon 37% -1.71
Toronto Raptors Morris Peterson 79% -2.18
Toronto Raptors Joey Graham 40% -5.24
Toronto Raptors Matt Bonner 43% -5.73
Toronto Raptors Eric Williams 9% -6.09
Toronto Raptors Rafael Araujo 15% -9.80
Toronto Raptors Pape Sow 15% -10.84
Toronto Raptors Antonio Davis 5%
Toronto Raptors Aaron Williams 2%
Utah Jazz Andrei Kirilenko 66% 13.83
Utah Jazz Jarron Collins 43% 4.33
Utah Jazz Mehmet Okur 74% 3.56
Utah Jazz Matt Harpring 49% 0.75
Utah Jazz Kris Humphries 16% -2.65
Utah Jazz Carlos Boozer 26% -2.66
Utah Jazz Gordan Giricek 24% -3.98
Utah Jazz Greg Ostertag 20% -4.00
Utah Jazz Devin Brown 43% -4.53
Utah Jazz Milt Palacio 35% -5.72
Utah Jazz Deron Williams 58% -5.80
Utah Jazz Keith McLeod 31% -9.32
Washington Wizards Antawn Jamison 83% 9.24
Washington Wizards Gilbert Arenas 85% 2.58
Washington Wizards Jared Jeffries 49% 2.19
Washington Wizards Donell Taylor 12% 2.08
Washington Wizards Antonio Daniels 57% 0.42
Washington Wizards Caron Butler 68% 0.12
Washington Wizards Jarvis Hayes 13% -0.98
Washington Wizards Brendan Haywood 47% -4.18
Washington Wizards Michael Ruffin 25% -4.88
Washington Wizards Etan Thomas 28% -5.39
Washington Wizards Chucky Atkins 14%


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David Lewin is a 19 year-old college sophomore from Wayland, Massachusetts. He currently attends Macalester College in St. Paul, Minnesota where he plays football. He has contributed research and articles to Pro Football Prospectus 2006 and FootballOutsiders.com. David is interested in a career in sports when he graduates and is always looking for interesting summer opportunities. He can be reached at dlew33@yahoo.com



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poprocks, no need to post the entire list, especially twice. The link was enough.

And I'm pretty sure the Lenovo stat is purely a raw "on court" +/- stat.

 

oops..durn sticky computer keys! I'll just post the link next time as you said. Easier that way.

"tips hat to Durvasa again"

 

These stats are stupid. How about we see some "+" more wins and "-" the losses. That's all I care about.

 

If you don't like the stats, fine. But saying that stats like that are stupid makes you look even more stupid.

Before you see your wins and losses, you need to know which players play best with each other and that's when traditional scouting is inefficient. I wouldn't totally rely on just $ball, but +/- stats do show a good indication of the best lineups on a team, especially the adjusted numbers.

If you don't care about these stats, then why would you even come into a thread like this in the first place.