The thread about the HIV muppet has gotten me thinking about 2 questions to ask that I feel are controversial. Hopefully, people will speak up and say what they really feel without getting into an angry mud-slinging affair. For the record, I think the thread on the HIV muppet has been a good civil discussion. Here are the 2 questions: 1) Would you have a problem with gay and lesbian rights being taught in school? We learn in history about blacks and women getting equal rights. Would it bother you if gays getting equal rights were discussed in school?? 2) Do you feel that someone is a racist if they never date outside their race?? My answers are as follows: 1) Yes, I would have a problem with that. The reason being is that I consider homosexuality to be a lifestyle. If it is shown that it is an inherited thing like having the tendency to become an alcoholic, then I think there could be things done to help overcome those tendencies (homosexual) if the individual would want that. 2) This is a tough one. I don't have a problem with mixed marriages as long as the 2 people love each other. I can't say that I would never date a black woman, Asian woman, or a woman of another race; however, it is my preference to date women of my own race. I don't consider myself racist for feeling that way, but I'm asking the question here to see what others think about that philosophy. The point of this thread is not to anger anyone here; it is to try to learn and educate myself on the other side of what I feel about these topics.
1. At this point yes. However, only because there are too many ignorant people in the world that teach hate to their children about homosexuality. Hopefully one day the vast majority of people will realize that homosexuals are people just like African-Americans, women, etc. are people. At that point, I believe the struggle for homosexuals to achieve equal rights should be taught-it will be a part of our history. Right now, it would cause more harm due to idiots. 2. No. Everyone has their preferences. But I think we should force Manny to overcome his disease of only preferring certain people. How is preferring a fat person over a skinny person any different from preferring someone of the same sex?
1. I don't have a problem with it as long as it's not in the context of endorsement...if it's merely taught as history, I have no problem with it. 2. absolutely not...people find certain physical characteristics attractive. if one finds certain attributes to be more attractive than the other (like complexion or facial features, etc), that's not racism. i have never dated an asian girl....not because i have any prejudice against asians...i just simply haven't been attracted to ones i've had close enough contact with to date. and being that i'm married now, i don't see it happening for me!
1. No, it is a lifestyle and not something that should be taught in school, home is the best place for dealing with all sexual issues. 2. This is funny, it is a matter of preference or taste, it does not make you a racist. DaDakota
Huh?? I beg to differ. It is a huge difference, RM95. For starters, there is more "variety" in making love with your partner when they are the opposite sex, if you see where I'm going with this (I don't want to get to explicit here). And for the record I have dated fat girls and skinny ones. It is true that I get more excited and I'm more attracted to skinny ones than fat ones, but I have had a pretty deep (or I thought it was at the time) relationship with a girl that had to be over 250 lbs at least. So, I'll leave it at that. Also, you can get the joy and satisfication of creating another life (the natural way) with someone of the opposite sex whether they are skinny and fat. You don't get that with a partner of the same sex.
What if you don't want to create a new life? What if you just want to love, marry, and be with someone for the rest of their lives, but the preference you have isn't legal??? What if Congress passed a law saying that skinny men could only marry fat women?
1) I have a problem with the gay/lesbian thing being taught in schools 2) No....just because someone isnt attracted to someone outside their own race, it doesnt mean they are a racist
1.) No, I wouldn't have a problem with gay/lesbian rights taught in school. We're taught that all men are created equal, so there's no reason to teach otherwise. Someone's sexual preference is their business, and they shouldn't be discriminated against because of it. 2.) No, you're not a racist if you don't bang people of another race. I, however, have no racial preference and have f*cked chicks from the following demographics: Indian White Hispanic Arab What I'm wondering, Manny is if say...ohh...Halle Berry walked up to you and wanted to f*ck, would you turn it down? How about someone like Jennifer Lopez? Didn't think so. I'll get you again: what Tyra Banks? I have to question your sexual preference if you wouldn't put the wood to any of the aforementioned chicks.
1. No I have no problem with teaching the truth that Gay and Lesbian people have fewer rights than heterosexuals, and that they face bigotry and violence because of their sexual oppression. I don't agree it's a lifestyle choice, but even if it was, in what possible way does it hurt heterosexual? 2.I guess it depends why they don't date out of their race. Depending on the reason they could be shallow, but not racist, or racist, or neither.
1. We teach about the KKK movement, but that is not an endorsement of the Klan. (I am not equating gay rights to the KKK morally) We need to teach pertinant historical facts to our kids, so I would not be opposed to teaching about a political and social struggle for any group of people. 2. This doesn't make you a racist, but it sure limits your options.
I think you are reaching a bit on this one (the original premise of fat vs. skinny), but that is my opinion. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Baqui: Hell yeah, I would bang Halle and Tyra. I would also bang Zhang Ziyi in a New York minute if she came up to me. However, I really wish that you hadn't mentioned J-Ho, I mean J-Lo. I find her very annoying and overrated.
1. No problem. Even if it is a lifestyle choice, I believe in rights for everyone. 2. As blade said...it depends. If someone says that they could never find anyone outside of thier race attractive, they probably have some issues. If someone says X is hot and cool, but I would never date her because she is (fill in "other" race), then they have some issues...etc. Baqui, A little crude...but I have you beat as far as races dated: Asian (multiple ethnicities within this broad category) Indian (I know still Asian, but many don't consider as such - anyway, more than one) Hispanic (again, multiple within) Black White Middle Eastern (Lebanese) Do I win some kind of prize?
1. There are hundreds of minorities and/or persecuted groups in the world, why narrow it to the teaching of rights for homosexuals? Schools should teach tolerance and diversity for everything, not limit it to single groups. 2. A racist for not dating oustide your race? This is a ludicrous question. What people find attractive is purely a matter of taste. I have yet to come across a race of women that does not hold attraction for me
There is a difference between gay rights, black rights and women's rights. Blacks and women had to fight for the right to vote. Blacks and women had to fight for the right to be treated as equals to white men. Blacks had to use different water fountains, door ways. Blacks could not use certain amenities or stay in certain hotels. Gays are discriminated against, but not to the extreme that blacks and women were (are). The main legal fight that I think gays have (I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong), is the right to marry so that the spouses can share in benefits, especially health care. In my opinion, there is nothing to teach concerning gay rights at this time as they compare to the rights fought for by blacks and women. Gays have had the right to vote. They never had to sit in the back of the bus. A gay male can make the same amount of money as a heterosexual male. The only caveat I would offer to my stance is the issue of gays in the military. That is certainly something that can be used in a teaching environment.
On the second issue, I'd like to comment that what kind of women you have around you in your formative years has a large influence on who you want to date/grope later. I moved from Canada to Japan when I was 15, and as a result, Japanese and other asians moved waay up on my personal "want to touch the heinie" (Sandler reference) chart. (I also ended up with a beautiful Japanese wife) I think moving abroad opened up my eyes to the beautiful women that exist in every race and color - and any man who doesn't appreciate such beauty may or may not be a racist - but he is definitely missing out. Hmmm, kind of raises a question though...if I had spent that time period around sexy men (shudder), would I be an outlaw as well?
