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Oh my lord, this man is dumb

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Aug 30, 2006.

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  1. Batman Jones

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  2. Saint Louis

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    And Karl Rove made him president. You don't have to fool all of the people, only enough of the voters to get your dumb butt elected, and there are plenty of stupid people in America.
     
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    Actually, Batman, I have a very close friend who covered Bush during his stint as Texas governor and as a presidential candidate. Even though he grits his teeth regarding Bush's policies and decisions, he would not agree with you that Bush is stupid -- he's actually quite the opposite. My friend would agree with you that Bush's value system is all screwed up.
     
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    "I read three Shakespeares."
     
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    thumbs, look at video of Bush as governor, and compare it to video of Bush today. The contrast is freakin' astounding. They are practically different people, and I'm not talking about policies. It makes me seriously wonder what is going on, personally, with the guy. And it's frightening to me.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  6. Dairy Ashford

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    I'm not a conserative or Republican, but it's probably gonna take more than a Southern accent and a halting speaking style for me to call a man dumb (especially since I have both).

    I don't think he's dumb so much as unpolished, which is a little odd considering his Andover, Yale and Harvard degrees. If he had leveraged that Harvard MBA into some time on Wall Street, rather than alongside wildcatters and roughnecks in West Texas, he might sound a bit more articulate. I thought he parried Williams' questions saliently enough. His response on Iraq was a bit muddled, but that's more due to the shaky reasoning for the War: much of which was shaped or promoted by a Stanford provost, a Fortune 500 CEO and a four-star General.

    Although, I'm pretty sure I had read "three Shakespeares" by spring semester of 10th grade; just not willingly.

    Four types of people get to be President: Bluebloods, Salesmen, Generals and Overacheivers with Humble Beginnings and Personality/Character Flaws. Only the last group (of which Clinton, Nixon and possibly Lincoln were members) requires any real intelligence, the first three types are good at rallying smart people around them, by appealing to their greed/class envy, idealism or ambition.
     
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    I agree Bush is intelligent in a narrow sense. He is also challenged by his lack of facts and close mindedness which he interprets as strength. His basic intelligence is hindered by dyslexia, and an attention span for reading or absorbing dense oral info of about thenty minutes. Socially he is quite quick and his acting skills are underated. Hence the plausible role of CEO, top gun, concern for average Americans not born into the multi-genrational great weath of his class, the mastery of the plain folks persona when all he has in common with many of them is his lack of reading. He is very qucik and bold when lying which he does frequently.

    Only the dittos could believe that he spends his days sitting around reading Camus and 90 other intellectual books as he recently lied or had his spokesperson lie for him.
     
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    Do you reckon he was reading "Plague" for pointers on the gory details while lowing "Camooooooo" in the pasture? :D
     
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    Bush isn't dumb - he's quite intelligent.

    However....when you have to state the level of ridiculous lies that he does, any intelligent person is going to appear stupid.
     
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    why is he intellegent?

    most people would agree that Bush is a dumb****.
     
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    from the VY thread in the hangout

     
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    i LOVE the list of sacrifices from the American People

    1. Taxes
    2. Economy
    3. Ariline disruptions
    4. Taxpaying


    Maybe if he had gotten to sacrifice #337 he would have remembered the servicemen and women who have uprooted their lives, their families lives, risked their safety and died for the War On Terror. That sacrifice might lodge somewhere.
     
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    I also like how on that list, numbers 1 & 4 are only sacrifices made by the middle and lower classes. The Rich have never had more tax breaks. Their sacrifice for the war is less than others.
     
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    not to defend bush.. but the noble servicemen & women did not really die for THE War on Terror

    but for THEIR War.. on Iraq, for Oil, for Israel, whichever...
     
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    Yeah, he forgot to mention we'd have to sacrafice credibility as a nation.
     
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    or the ability to feel proud of the direction of our fine nation, we sacrificed that too i suppose.

    also that weird week of baseball games that got postponed after 9/11, we sacrificed that.
     
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    He's not that dumb but he acts it and appears to enjoy it because being anti-elitist and anti-intellectual is his schtick; however he's also quite arrogant nd thinks he's rather smart; It doesn't really matter because he takes comfort in delegating his policies, wholesale, to ostensibly smart people who aren't nearly as smart as they think, incapable of seeing flaws, and woefully lacking in implementaion -- which is a dumb thing to do.

    The theme of this whole thing comes to one of the central themes of this white house - create an alternate reality to suit your needs and people (botht he audience and the creators) will begin to believe it, which can be, and has ben disastrous.
     
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    Hello to all. It seems like I haven't been in here in a while.

    With regards to what Deck said, I read an interesting column a couple of weeks ago that stated that Bush is trying to adapt to Washington English (author's term, not mine). Basically the author stated that she felt the great difference between Bush the governor and Bush the president was the fact that he was trying to eliminate some of his more 'Texas' speech mannerisms causing him to try and speak in a manner unlike his normal speech. I even talked to a journalist who's covered Bush since the 90's and he said almost the same thing.

    Not saying it's the truth just saying it's a possibility.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    I would rather have a man of average intellect in the whitehouse who is smart enough to surround himself with smart people to help him make policy.

    DD
     

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