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Official Measurments of Rocket Draft prospects fom Insider

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Glyde22, Jun 10, 2002.

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  1. Glyde22

    Glyde22 Contributing Member

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    NBA Draft: Size matters


    Although they declined to participate in the pre-draft camps, most of the top prospects in the draft did show up in Chicago on Saturday for physicals and official measurements.

    The measurements are an event that teams watch with a bit of anticipation. Colleges are notorious for inflating the heights of their players and poor measurement can really hurt a player's stock.

    This year Caron Butler, Kareem Rush, Dajuan Wagner and Jay Williams all measured shorter than listed. Jared Jefferies actually measured an inch taller.

    Wingspans are a big deal in the pros when measuring a prospects' defensive potential. Jason Jennings had the longest wingspan at 7-foot-7. Nene Hilario and Melvin Ely both had 7-foot-4 wingspans, which should really help their cause. A few players, like Mike Dunleavy, Yao Ming, Qyntel Woods and Williams have pretty short arms relative to their size.

    Here are how the top prospects measured out on Saturday. All heights are with shoes (in most cases an inch and half taller than without shoes).

    Carlos Boozer: 6' 9 1/4" | 258 lbs | 7' 2 1/4" wingspan

    Curtis Borchard: 7' 1/4" | 238 lbs | 7' 2 1/2" wingspan

    Caron Butler: 6' 6 1/2" | 222 lbs | 6' 11 1/2" wingspan

    Mike Dunleavy: 6' 9 1/2" | 230 lbs | 6' 9" wingspan

    Melvin Ely: 6' 10 | 240 lbs | 7' 4" wingspan

    Drew Gooden: 6' 10" | 227 lbs | 7' 1/2" wingspan

    Rod Grizzard: 6' 7 3/4" | 193 lbs | 7' wingspan

    Marcus Haislip: 6' 9 3/4" | 221 lbs | 7' wingspan

    Nene Hilario: 6' 10 3/4" | 253 lbs | 7' 4 1/2" wingspan

    Jared Jeffries: 6' 11" | 230 lbs | 7' 1/2" wingspan

    Jason Jennings: 7' 1/2" | 249 lbs | 7' 7" wingspan

    Yao Ming: 7' 6 1/4" | 296 lbs | 7'4 3/4" wingspan:eek:

    Kareem Rush: 6' 5 3/4" | 199 lbs | 6' 9 3/4" wingspan

    Amare Stoudemire: 6' 10" | 233 lbs | 7' 1 3/4" wingspan

    Dajuan Wagner: 6' 2" | 193 lbs | 6' 8 1/2" wingspan

    Chris Wilcox: 6' 9 1/2" | 218 lbs | 7' 1" wingspan

    Frank Williams: 6' 2 3/4" | 212 lbs | 6' 8" wingspan

    Jay Williams: 6' 1 3/4" | 197 lbs | 6' 3 1/2" wingspan

    Qyntel Woods: 6' 8 1/2" | 213 lbs | 6' 10" wingspan

    Short wing span or not Ming is huge. Butler is shorter than I thought and Jefferies is 6' 11" !!!...interesting!

    Personally, I think Ely would not be a bad pick-up at #15
     
    #1 Glyde22, Jun 10, 2002
  2. LAfadeaway33

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    Caron Butler's hight will not help his draft status but his wingspan should help make up for it.
     
    #2 LAfadeaway33, Jun 10, 2002
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    #3 Deuce, Jun 10, 2002
  4. Batman Jones

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    I'm guessing Ming's measurements are from his Chicago workout. Is that right? If so, why all the controversy about his wingspan? Should it be 8'? What's Dream's? What's Shaq's? I don't know where such measurements are available on the web, but surely a 7'4" wingspan is among the elite in that category. AND they've got him listed at over 7'6, which I realize some people want to turn into a liability. At any rate, this ought to lay the wingspan issue to rest.
     
    #4 Batman Jones, Jun 10, 2002
  5. glynch

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    Wingspan Mania!

    Note that Dunlevy has the wingspan of a 6'2" guard and Jay Williams has the wingspan of Spud Webb.

    Yet, they are considered by many to be the top two players in the draft???

    I guess I have my answer as to how supposedly the number one and two players in the entire draft could not win the title. It is all in the lack of wingspan.

    Alternate theories. Duke players don't need wingspan. Players from other teams are severely limited by the lack thereof.

    Or perhaps, it is not the most important thing in basketball.
     
    #5 glynch, Jun 10, 2002
  6. D-Up

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    Ming is a legit 7'5 in bare feet, and is a bowl of rice short of 300 lbs.

    That is a lot beans on that pole.

    And folks, this kid has the frame to add at least another 25 pounds.

    Ely would make a nice fallback, should Hilario or a ball handling/sweet shooting SF not be available at the 15th.
     
    #6 D-Up, Jun 10, 2002
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    7'4" is big, but not for a guy who is 7'6". That's what the alligator arm controversy is about. Notice that Ely, who is over a half foot shorter than Ming, is only about a half inch shorter in wingspan.
     
    #7 Oski2005, Jun 10, 2002
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    Batman Jones,

    The issue with Mings wingspan isnt that it is small. Relatively speaking, he has a short wingspan. He is the only person that has a shorter wingspan than height. Ming, if he was proportional, should have a wingspan of about 7'8".
     
    #8 rezdawg, Jun 10, 2002
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    What matters is ability and actual height. Ming is superior to Ely in both.
     
    #9 mfclark, Jun 10, 2002
  10. Batman Jones

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    So if he was ten feet tall, would a nine foot wingspan be a big problem? That is, what is it you would like him to do that he can't do because of his 'meager' 7'4 wingspan? You guys must be running out of reasons not to like him. I'd stick to the contract issues with China and his inability to bang in the post without bulking up. Those are at least legitimate concerns.
     
    #10 Batman Jones, Jun 10, 2002
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    I find it almost impossible to believe that Chris Wilcox only weighs 218 lbs. How??? He looks much bigger. That's a real shock.
     
    #11 right1, Jun 10, 2002
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    The bottom line is Yao Ming will come out on top if you rank all those guys by wingspan. Wingspan is the knock against Yao Ming. But if we choose the top pick solely based on wingspan ranking, the #1 pick will still be Mr. Ming. So what's the problem?
     
    #12 RocketForever, Jun 10, 2002
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    Ran out of creatine?
     
    #13 D-Up, Jun 10, 2002
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    Bingo.

    Wake up, hatas. Would you rather have a mere 7'4 3/4" wingspan on a 7' 6 1/4" (in shoes) player or on a less-skilled 6'10" player like Hilario? So what it's a few inches shorter than normal proportion! These numbers are amazing, even if you totally ignore his mobility, talent, shooting touch, blocking ability, etc.
     
    #14 Nolen, Jun 10, 2002
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    To be more accurate, he is second to Jennings on this list.

    Jason Jennings: 7' 1/2" | 249 lbs | 7' 7" wingspan
     
    #15 COMPAQ CENTER, Jun 10, 2002
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    If Ming had a 7'7 wingspan the same people would say it was too long.
     
    #16 Batman Jones, Jun 10, 2002
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    Looking at the wing span is ok, but you need to look at how big they play!!!!!!! why get a 6' 9" player with a 1 ' vert. , when you can get a 6' 8" player with a 4' vert. ?

    I know that players play bigger than they are., take Wilcox he played all around and above the rim in their Championship run.

    The Roxs need some leapers to get more defensive minded, you can't out score everybody ( Dallas). You got to play some,and I don't want to see the Roxs turn into another Dallas
     
    #17 sweetpea, Jun 10, 2002
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    That has to be a missprint. If not I could see him really falling.
     
    #18 Possum, Jun 10, 2002
  19. right1

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    Wilcox has got to be somewhere between 230 and 245 lbs., unless he had a really bad case of the flu after the tournament and lost 15 lbs. I just don't see how there is any way he is less than 230 lbs.
     
    #19 right1, Jun 10, 2002
  20. DaDakota

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    What was Larry Bird's vertical? or Magic Johnson's vertical.

    Come on guys, it is more about what is ABOVE the shoulders then athletic ability.

    By all reports Ming is very smart, and more importantly a very quick thinker....

    DaDakota
     
    #20 DaDakota, Jun 10, 2002
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