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[Official] Astros Off Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 2, 2024.

  1. Castor27

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    Talk a bout the off season here. Major events will get their own threads but other discussions should be kept in here.
     
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  2. Tomstro

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    Trade Hader for some chipotle. That’s some tasty stuff y’all.
     
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    Offload Hader for whatever you're able to get for him.
    Demote Dana Brown.
    Do whatever it takes to bring back Strom with a clear 1 year plan from pitching guru to manager / allow JV to pivot from body of work to mind of work (pitching coach --> mgr)
    Upgrade your tech / analytics monkeys.
    Hire a nutritionist who knows strength/conditioning & can get along with aforementioned monkeys.
    Hire a strength/conditioning coach who is on the same page with the above 2 aforementioned.
    Hire a consultant who understands every player's ups/downs/astrological sign/ballpark/pitching vs hitting matchup
    Hire a tech-forward, analytical hitting coach
    Make everyone in the lineup take the 1st pitch regardless
    Bridge the pitcher-catcher-hitter gap within the game/innings as if every game/AB is WarGames
    Kikuchi, Singleton, Dubon, Gamel, Neris stay with 2-yr deals
    Shop Valdez, Hader, Pressly, McCormick (sorry dude, nothing but love), Meyers, Tucker
    Match Bregman's deal
     
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    Hader will be fine it’s pressley that needs to be traded.
     
  6. Fulgore

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    Atleast 2 bats
     
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  7. InTheGroove

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    no... 34 games saved out of 71 is below the threshold of less than acceptable.
    You don't pay someone almost $100MM to allow runs as your "ace closer".
    WAR is back at 2022 form in which he played for 2 teams.
    Numbers regressing back to 2022/2019.
    Bad deal. Trade chip.

    If you keep him, that mo-fo better be juicing tonight and throwing weights around (just like every player who wants to make an impact on the team/league next season)
     
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    Strom is 176 years old
     
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  9. Radricky

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    34/38 saves to opportunities
    I truly believe he will be nails next year.
     
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    Add 3 bats

    Let Bregs walk and give Dezenzo a shot at 3B.

    Sign Walker/Conforto in FA and trade for Robert. Let everybody walk that's arb eligible except Framber/Tucker/Dubon.

    I play Dubon 50 or so games next year at 2nd base. Altuve's lost range really hurt the team today IMHO.
     
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  11. lnchan

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    I need a few shots of Haderade to wash away that performance
     
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    I never seen a reliever stack up so many losses on his record.
     
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    The defense this year has been a huge downgrade when we had multiple gold glovers in the infield...
     
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    Yep, Pena had a down year and Altuve's range isn't nearly what it used to be.
     
  15. Tomstro

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    All those home runs. All those easy 3 run saves. Only 9 or 10 of those were 1 run saves. He was WAY too easy to hit.
     
  16. InTheGroove

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    thats a bold move, Cotton... Crane is out >10% of a billion dollars (let that sink... over $100MM wasted) with Montero/Abreu/Hader signings from now until 2028.
    Jimmy, just do a money drop-- from the bullshit roof that never wants to stay open-- for the fans, bc at this point, the fans have earned that $100MM more so than those scrubs.
    I retain MoDubs / Gamel / Flippinton (do your thing) & Caratini -- I let (trade/shop) FV & King Glass, SpiceShaker (wtf happened to your game dude), Meyers (you honestly gave us the only defensive highlights that mattered this yr) walk or get what you can.
    Sign Kikuchi yesterday & Yusuke Oshima & Jenloy Herrera to lifetime deals.

    ..AAAAAAND fvck he has a full no-trade clause.
    Lol thanks Gemini: Hader's contract is the largest ever for a relief pitcher in terms of present-day value. It's also the largest contract ever given out by Astros owner Jim Crane.
     
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    Option 1 (Stretch the window):
    -Requires Crane to stretch payroll to all time high
    -Add 2 bats and a SP
    Hypothetical opening day roster with this plan:
    2B Altuve
    RF Tucker
    DH Alvarez
    1B Christian Walker*
    C Diaz
    LF Michael Conforto*
    SS Pena
    3B Gio Urshela*
    CF Meyers
    Bench: Dubon, Caratini, Singleton, McCormick
    Rotation: Framber, Brown, Yusei Kikuchi*, Blanco, Arrighetti, Garcia
    Bullpen: Hader, Pressly, Abreu, Ort, Whitley, King, Dubin
    Projected wins: 90-100
    Farm ranking 20-25

    Option 2 (Rebuild again):
    -Requires the trade market to reward sellers
    -Requires massive faith in Dana Brown to target the right prospects
    -Trade Tucker, Framber, Pena, Hader, and Abreu (among others)
    Hypothetical opening day roster with this plan:
    2B Altuve
    SS Kyle Farmer* (placeholder for Brice Matthews)
    DH Alvarez
    C Diaz
    1B Singleton
    3B Dezenzo
    RF Ben Gamel* (placeholder for Jacob Melton)
    LF Whitcomb
    CF Meyers
    Bench: Salazar, Leon, Cabbage, Kessinger
    Rotation: Brown, Blanco, Arrighetti, Garcia, Jose Quintana* (placeholder for AJ Blubaugh)
    Bullpen: Whitley, Dubin, Ort, Scott, Sousa, Murfee, King, VanWey
    Projected wins: 70-80
    Farm ranking: 6-12

    Option 3 (Hope for the best):
    -Requires rebounds from McCormick, Garcia, and McCullers
    -Requires breakouts from young players at 1B and 3B
    -Add/subtract on the fringes
    Hypothetical opening day roster with this plan:
    2B Altuve
    RF Tucker
    DH Alvarez
    C Diaz
    LF McCormick
    1B Singleton
    SS Pena
    3B Dezenzo
    CF Meyers
    Bench: Jorge Polanco*, Caratini, Dubon, Ben Gamel*
    Rotation: Framber, Brown, Blanco, Justin Verlander*, Arrighetti, Garcia
    Bullpen: Hader, Pressly, Abreu, Ort, Whitley, Scott, King
    Projected wins: 80-90
    Farm ranking 20-25
     
  18. lnchan

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    I see 3 bad and unrealistic options.
     
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  19. Snake Diggit

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    Ok well **** you put me on ignore then
     
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    What are your options?
     

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