1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Obama's first presidential address to the nation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Feb 9, 2009.

  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,980
    Likes Received:
    2,365
    Well, since he couldn't get bipartisan support in congress, Barack has taken his message to the American people to plead his case.

    This might be one of the first times a lot of people hear him speak away from his typical canned speeches. So far it's clear that he doesn't have a strong grasp on economics and how this stimulus would work. Lots of stuttering and uncertainty in his voice.
     
  2. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,980
    Likes Received:
    2,365
    "I inherited this crisis". lol Barack has had to say this twice now. It's a sure sign that he's hurting. He's not answering the questions - he's leaning on his canned party lines
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    15,622
    Likes Received:
    6,587
    Take it from a finance professional -- Obama doesn't know what he is talking about. He's a total joke in darn near every board room in the country.

    ...and talk about hypocrisy... calling for bipartisan efforts immediately after slamming 'the last 8 years'... what a joke this guy is. That said, I'm sure his Sheeple will eat this garbage up.
     
  4. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    48,989
    Likes Received:
    19,932
    This video basically sums up my feelings about this thread and its inhabitants.

    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/lhmjnYKlVnM&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/lhmjnYKlVnM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
     
  5. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,980
    Likes Received:
    2,365
    lol who the heck allowed the HuffPo to submit a question? And the question this clown came up with was about prosecuting the Bush Administration. I think there's a few more important points for the president to look at. What a joke
     
  6. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,683
    Likes Received:
    16,209
  7. Northside Storm

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2007
    Messages:
    11,262
    Likes Received:
    450
    I'm very curious Jorge...

    Explain purchasing power parity and provide a relevant example with one of the major trading partners of the United States.
     
  8. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,980
    Likes Received:
    2,365
    He knows that this has become the democrats' stimulus package. He has to defend it. Your little graph was cute, though
     
  9. yo

    yo Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2001
    Messages:
    2,287
    Likes Received:
    146
    You know he's going to Wikipedia it.
     
  10. Northside Storm

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2007
    Messages:
    11,262
    Likes Received:
    450
    Probably. But hey, there's still more stuff out there, stuff that can't be as easily explained on a theoretical level.

    And stuff that should form the basis of knowledge for ANYONE in a boardroom who is not there serving drinks.
     
  11. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,683
    Likes Received:
    16,209
    Actually, he doesn't *need* to. People already support him. They are more confident in him now than before he was elected:

    [​IMG]

    And they support a stimulus package:

    [​IMG]

    So all around, he doesn't need to be defending anything. He chooses to, because as he said long ago, he's providing a much more open administration than his predecessor.
     
  12. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,980
    Likes Received:
    2,365
    Major - that information is irrelevant. America views this as the democrats' stimulus package. He has to defend it because it's about to get a lot of scrutiny. Your polls were taken before America knows all the details of it.
     
  13. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,623
    Likes Received:
    7,156
  14. texanskan

    texanskan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2006
    Messages:
    4,565
    Likes Received:
    163
    I am watching the Rockets but at halftime I checked out some of it on dvr and he has ZERO clue of what he is talking about. No confidence in his voice from the little I saw.
     
  15. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,980
    Likes Received:
    2,365
    Yeah I kinda felt sorry for him there for a little bit. He just really didn't have a good grasp of the topic.
     
  16. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,683
    Likes Received:
    16,209
    That's certainly true. The polls were taken immediately after Republicans went to the airwaves on a full assault against it, without any substantive response by the Democrats. Chances are the support of it only goes up from here as it passes and gets signed into law. Obama held the middle ground and is seen as the bipartisan negotiator, while Republicans are being viewed as obstructionists playing politics while the economy suffers. Very smart play by Obama to work with Collins, Snowe and Specter.
     
  17. glynch

    glynch Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    18,082
    Likes Received:
    3,605
    This was a very strong press conference by Obama. If the average voter understood what he was talking about, it will start to unmask the anti-government simplistic talking points of the conservatives.

    So incredible after Bush, to actually have the president discuss policy as opposed to doggedly following a few talking points interspersed with some smirking.

    I thought it was a much more impressive performance by Obama than we saw in the debates. Of course, when asked stupid "gotcha" style questions it is hard to do much. The poor guy from Fox tried a gotcha style question and did not succeed at all.
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,051

    The typical canned speeches that drew tens of thousands all around the country for months on end? Those speeches?

    You guys sharing some reality cocoon or something? Steve Guttenburg is going to release you guys any minute now, just hold on.
     
  19. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2002
    Messages:
    15,622
    Likes Received:
    6,587
    Actually, the average person educated in finance was grimacing at his oversimplifications and brain-dead ramblings about a topic that he knows virtually nothing about. Of course, that is lost on you, as a lawyer -- a profession notorious for not understanding finance...

    When you have to reduce a financial crisis down to irrelevant buzzwords like 'deregulation', 'golden parachutes', 'corporate jets' and other such demagoguery, then frankly it just sounds like the person doesn't understand what he is talking about.... just parroting memorized talking points -- similar to his debates.

    It amazes me that people know so little as to NOT be able to see through the superficial sham that is Obama's financial understanding.
     
  20. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 1999
    Messages:
    23,128
    Likes Received:
    10,171
    I totally agree and think you really ought to spend your efforts convincing the Republican leadership to be even more strident in response. It's just a matter of time before the American people start clamoring for leadership, W style.
     

Share This Page