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Obama's activist EPA got pimp slapped by appeals court

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  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Contributing Member

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    Major setback for the EPA....good for the US economy

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/21/usa-epa-ruling-idUSL2E8JL56020120821

    U.S. court strikes down EPA rule on coal pollution

    Aug 21 (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Tuesday overturned a key Obama administration rule to reduce harmful emissions from coal-burning power plants, sparking a rally in coal company shares and relief among utility firms.

    The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit said in a 2-1 decision that the Environmental Protection Agency had exceeded its mandate with the rule, which was to limit sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxide emissions from power plants in 28 mostly Eastern states and Texas.

    In the latest setback for the EPA, the court sent the rule back for revision, telling the agency to administer its existing Clean Air Interstate Rule in the interim.

    The ruling will likely be cheered by Republicans, who have made the EPA and President Barack Obama's environmental policies a main campaign theme ahead of November elections.

    The agency is endangering a fragile economic recovery by saddling U.S. industries with costly new rules, Republicans say.

    "Vindicating the state's objections to EPA's aggressive and lawless approach, today's decision is an important victory for federalism and a rebuke to a federal bureaucracy run amok," said Greg Abbott, Texas attorney general.

    Power groups, which had argued that they could not meet the timeframe or bear the financial burden of installing costly new equipment, welcomed the court's decision.

    "The importance of the ruling cannot be overstated. The court was clear in finding that EPA had overstepped its legal authority in developing the rule," said Scott Segal, director of the Electric Reliability Coordinating Council.

    Coal company stocks, which have suffered this year as cheap natural gas undercut demand for coal from power companies, soared. In morning trade on the New York Stock Exchange, Peabody Energy was 6.6 percent higher at $24.46, Arch Coal rose 5.8 percent to $7.58 and Consol Energy added 4.4 percent at $34.53.

    U.S. natural gas futures briefly fell more than 10 cents or 3 percent after the ruling's announcement as traders bet it would mean less demand for the cleaner fuel over the coming months. By midday, prices had recovered those losses.

    POLLUTION CONTROLS

    The EPA's rule was designed to reduce sulfur dioxide emissions by 73 percent and nitrogen oxide by 54 percent at coal-fired power plants from 2005 levels, improving health for over 240 million people, according to the EPA. The reasoning is that unhealthy emissions from those plants, pollutants that cause acid rain and smog, cross state lines.

    Two of the three judges ruling on the case said the EPA had exceeded its "jurisdictional limits" in interpreting the Clean Air Act and imposed "massive emission reduction requirements" on upwind states.

    They also said the EPA had violated the act by setting "good neighbor" obligations while setting forth EPA-designed Federal Implementation Plans, or FIPs, to implement the obligations at the state level.

    "By doing so, EPA departed from its consistent prior approach to implementing the good neighbor provision and violated the (Clean Air Act)," Judge Brett Kavanaugh said in the court's opinion.

    The rule, known as CSAPR, also established a cap-and-trade system that enabled power producers to comply with the emission limits by buying, trading and selling pollution permits.

    Environmental market participants, who trade SO2 and NOx permits, said they were "surprised and disappointed" by the ruling.

    Power generators, such as Southern Co and Energy Future Holdings Corp, had argued that the Jan. 1 implementation date was too soon and allowed too little time to design and install pollution control equipment needed to comply.

    Texas, along with the National Mining Association and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, had also challenged the EPA. They said the rule caused undue financial burden on power producers and could make the power market less reliable by forcing companies to shut some older plants.

    EPA OVERREACH?

    Power industry groups said the opinion underscored that the EPA has overstepped its reach in several pending clear air regulations.

    Segal of the Electric Reliability Coordinating Council said the CSAPR, along with other EPA rules, did not show sufficient respect or deference to state programs.

    "Today's decision is a stern warning against EPA's recent views," he said.

    Luke Popovich, a spokesman for the National Mining Association, which groups coal producers and other miners and challenged the EPA in the case, hailed the ruling.

    "This was not entirely surprising because it's the third or fourth ruling by a federal court that shows the EPA to be overriding the authority that the states have and conducting an unlawful regulatory program against coal," he said.

    Environmental groups warned that the decision would put lives at risk.

    "The court's decision significantly imperils long overdue clean air safeguards for millions of Americans," said Vickie Patton, general counsel of the Environmental Defense Fund.

    Patton said the EPA should move in parallel to "swiftly put in place replacement protections" and to ask the three-judge panel and the full court to rehear the case.
     
  2. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

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    Surprise surprise. Guess who appointed the two and guess who appointed the one.
     
  3. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Contributing Member

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    the two: strong economic champions who want to help the country

    the one: academic out of touch fool who blames everybody else?
     
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  4. RocketMan Tex

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    Nobody needs protection from the emissions of a coal-burning power plant!

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  5. SamFisher

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    you didn't guess who nominated the 2 and the 1.

    2 = George W. Bush

    1 = George W. Bush
     
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  6. yo

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    Why does bigtexxx hate the environment? :(
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    bigtexxx loves a strong economy, which is a concept that is not understood by the Blamer in Chief.
     
  8. RocketMan Tex

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    Fixed it for you....:grin:
     
  9. krosfyah

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    LilTexxx got owned (again). Lol.
     
  10. HR Dept

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    So tell me, who now is the out of touch fool placing blame?
     
  11. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Yay for dirtier air, awesome!
     
  12. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Contributing Member

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    silly trap attempted by SamFisher

    just a data point showing that W didn't appoint purely based on partisan lines

    so the pwn3ning is fully on you, actually
     
  13. KingCheetah

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    Well, frack me.
     
  14. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

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    Silly trap deflection fail.

    Listen. Here is what happened.

    Big sam threw big texxx a changeup.

    big texxx thought he was getting the fastball, so he swung and missed.

    big sam is lollerskating all over your cred-grave.

    SELF REPPED
     
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  15. mfastx

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    I'm sorry, but it's a little hard for me to take someone that puts "pimp slapped" in a thread title seriously.
     
  16. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Contributing Member

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    what about guys who refer to "their cousin pookie"?

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-Al6r8ESjAY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    Wow! texxx shown up again. I can only hope that in the future people like texxx will take more care and dig a little deeper before starting threads.
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    We can just call him burnt texxx from now on.
     
  19. El_Conquistador

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    This is a great decision for the economic health of our great nation. The tired, outdated argument about coal being dirty is just that -- tired and outdated. Utilities have invested billions upon billions in technologies to clean up mercury, Nox, SO2, and particulate matter from coal fired plants. Pollution is a problem that is solved. CO2 emissions are obviously not pollution, although the left tries to conflate CO2 emissions with pollution, and then links it to the debunked global warming scare tactic. Everyone is pro renewables -- until they have to pay for it.

    But all of this is a distraction. The EPA is not trying to clean up the air with regulations such as CSAPR and MACT, they are simply trying to shut down coal fired generation and raise electricity prices, so that their solar and wind fantasies are now economic without government subsidies. Obama's EPA is going after every single aspect of coal-fired generation and coal mining, in an effort to shut it totally down and prevent those miners from providing for their families. Rule upon rule, and selective enforcement upon selective enforcement tailored to stopping coal dead in its tracks. It's the reason why the ultra liberal United Mine Workers union won't endorse this election cycle -- the first time ever. Kinda tells the story right there, huh?

    The truth of the matter is that our great nation was built on the back of cheap energy. When you kill that, you kill the economy. No one -- NO ONE -- can argue that Obama has not pursued a strategy of raising power prices. He himself has admitted to it, so there's no sense in trying to deny it. There's a reason why 70% of China's energy comes from coal -- because it's cheap and they want to grow their economy. Obama on the other hand wants to shut down our greatest source of btu content and raise energy prices. There's a reason why the entire (non-magic unicorn) energy industry is passionate in their hatred for Obama.
     
  20. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    How much air pollution does solar and wind energy generate? Anyone know? :grin:
     

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