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Obama Will Rob Us of the American Dream

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Oct 24, 2008.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Obama does not believe in the American Dream -- the chance to become wildly successful. Listen as he reveals his deep seated beliefs in wealth redistribution. Listen as he reveals his racial focus, and how he makes white executives the scapegoat for blacks' underperformance in schools. He truly feels, in his heart of hearts, that money should be spread around. He this confirms the words that he has spoken, time and again. We wants to take money from those who have taken risks and worked hard to succeed, and then give that hard earned money to people who live off of the government.

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    How does this advance the American Dream? Obama simply does not understand America and what makes it great. You hate to say it, but this is likely the direct result of listening to his cadre of American-hating advisors, one of whom is Jeremiah Wright.

    Note also how much he has changed his speaking style and the words he chooses -- in an attempt to market himself to Americans who do not share his values.
     
  2. Batman Jones

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    I stopped reading there. That is not the American Dream.

    The American Dream is opportunity for all.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    You are as socialist as Obama if you believe that. That's NOT the American Dream, Batman. Opportunity is created by hard work and preparation, NOT by the government sending you the money that other people worked to earn. The government sending money to lazy people who won't work is not how you create opportunity, you buffoon. Opportunity is created by INCENTIVES and MOTIVATION. That leads to hard work and productivity. Handing money to poor people who won't work and have no ambition is a waste of time. It takes money from those who have the drive needed to succeed, the drive needed to take risks and create jobs, and hands that money to people who will squander it.

    Don't believe me? Here's wiki's explanation of the American Dream:

    The American Dream is belief in the freedom that allows all citizens and residents of the United States to achieve their goals in life through hard work. Today, it often refers to one's material prosperity, which is dependent upon one's abilities and work ethic, and not on a rigid class structure.


    Batman, you have a lot to learn about people if you believe that opportunity is created by redistributing money from earners to squanderers.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Trader,

    Did Clinton rob us of the American dream? Did Carter?

    This over the top BS nonsense is why McCain is getting clobbered......come up with ways to fix this...

    Fear is not an issue anymore.

    DD
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    I'm hearing it, but I'm not seeing it.

    Radio_Jorge.
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    interesting thoughts on what obama thinks about education, of course its a lie

    here what he actually says http://obama.senate.gov/issues/education/

    However, while we work together to improve our schools, there is no substitute for strong parental involvement. Because education begins at home, parents must set high standards and inspirational examples for their children. As a father, Senator Obama believes we need to find the time and the energy to help motivate our kids to love learning. Parents can read to their children, discuss what they read, and make time for this by turning off the TV.

    nice try though
     
  7. hotblooded

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    someone is getting O-so deseprate
     
  8. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Yeah, a person raised by a single mother and his maternal grandparents who didn't have legacies to get him into Columbia or Harvard Law and who worked his way up to become a multi-millionaire doesn't believe in the "American Dream".

    What a joke. I can't wait until I wake up November 5th when I can call him President-elect Obama! THAT, my friends, is the American Dream.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    Scratch the "multi" part.

    His net worth is 1.3 million :)
     
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    I want to repeat this a million times. Obama didn't come from a wealthy family, had to work hard to pay for his school, and even get into the schools he went to, and worked hard to achieve everything he got.

    Obama IS the American dream. He's a shining example of what can be done with hard work, and dedication.
     
  11. rhadamanthus

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    Ditto.

    Let me add:

    In conclusion, die-hard wingnuts can go f themselves.
     
  12. yaoluv

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    EXACTLY!!

    Its actually quite hilarious. Obama wants to raise taxes to Bill Clinton levels. Even less than Clinton for many in the middle class.

    Yet, Mccain and his disciples scream and shout about Barack turning America into a socialist state.

    But the voters are smarter than that. The 90s were a time for businesses and Americans. So many people decided to take the leap and start companies ( .com and otherwise ).

    It just doesn't hold water that Americans were discouraged from starting businesses and pursuing the American dream under Clinton in the 90s. Its just not true. And that is why Mccain will lose.
     
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    :D

    This is really pretty funny considering Jr presided over the greatest re-distribution of wealth in our nation’s history bailing out Wall Street.
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    its not redistribution when you give to businesses
     
  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    i wonder if this is tj's last stand, i mean he got black people don't do well in school, wright, and socialists all in one post.
     
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    they tried the race card, then terrorism, then abortion... there isn't much left except the classic class warfare stuff.
     
  17. Behad

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    You just proved Obama's point. By lumping all of the inner city ethnic groups into one - a group that, by your own admission, wants nothing but handouts and freebies without having to work for it - you have suppressed millions of Americans. Your attitude is borderline racist. Check that....you are a racist pig.


    Well, Trader_Idiot....which group are you a part of?
     
  18. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    That's an oversimplification that Obama is using in a disingenuous manner to convince the gullible that it's a good idea to redistribute wealth. The problem here isn't that taxes are too low. The problem is spending is too high and interest rates were too low a few years ago. Taxes should be CUT right now to stimulate the economy. Raising them is a Depression-area false move that will only make things worse, as more money supply will leave the economy. The goal here is LIQUIDITY and CONFIDENCE. Raising taxes achieves neither goal.

    Obama has sold you fools that a bill of goods that is false. This financial crisis can not be over-simplified (although that IS the only way his drones will understand something) by saying that taxes are going up to Clinton levels. That's stupid and it's false. The economy is much more than just tax levels and where they were 10 years ago. Wake up people. Or better yet, educate yourselves.
     
  19. Major

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    John McCain, American socialist:

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/mccain-socialis.html

    Responding to a question from a girl who wants to know why her her father, a doctor, pays a higher tax rate than people who earn less:

    McCain: "I think it's to some degree because we feel, obviously, that wealthy people can afford more."

    Doctor's daughter: Aren't we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism and stuff?

    McCain: "Here's what I really believe. When you are, reach a certain level of comfort, there is nothing wrong with paying somewhat more."
     
  20. durvasa

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    In other words, there's nothing wrong with "spreading the wealth".
     

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