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Obama Wants To Slash Nuclear Weapons by 80 Percent

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  1. Faos

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    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5654836.ece

    President Obama seeks Russia deal to slash nuclear weapons


    The radical new treaty would reduce the number of nuclear warheads to 1,000 each


    President Obama will convene the most ambitious arms reduction talks with Russia for a generation, aiming to slash each country’s stockpile of nuclear weapons by 80 per cent.

    The radical treaty would cut the number of nuclear warheads to 1,000 each, The Times has learnt. Key to the initiative is a review of the Bush Administration’s plan for a US missile defence shield in Eastern Europe, a project fiercely opposed by Moscow.

    Mr Obama is to establish a non-proliferation office at the White House to oversee the talks, expected to be headed by Gary Samore, a non-proliferation negotiator in the Clinton Administration. The talks will be driven by Hillary Clinton’s State Department.

    No final decision on the defence shield has been taken by Mr Obama. Yet merely delaying the placement of US missiles in Poland and a radar station in the Czech Republic — which if deployed would cost the US $4 billion annually — removes what has been a major impediment to Russian co-operation on arms reduction.

    Any agreement would put pressure on Britain, which has 160 nuclear warheads, and other nuclear powers to reduce their stockpiles.

    Mr Obama has pledged to put nuclear weapons reduction at the heart of his presidency and his first move will be to reopen talks with Moscow to replace the 1991 US-Soviet Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (Start), which expires in December. Under that pact, the two countries have cut their respective stockpiles from roughly 10,000 to 5,000.

    “We are going to re-engage Russia in a more traditional, legally binding arms reduction process,” an official from the Administration said. “We are prepared to engage in a broader dialogue with the Russians over issues of concern to them. Nobody would be surprised if the number reduced to the 1,000 mark for the post-Start treaty.”

    Efforts to revive the Start talks were fitful under Mr Bush and complicated by his insistence on building a missile defence shield. “If Obama proceeds down this route, this will be a major departure,” one Republican said. “But there will be trouble in Congress.”

    The plan is also complicated by the nuclear ambitions of Iran, which launched its first satellite into space yesterday, and North Korea, which is preparing to test a long-range ballistic missile capable of striking the US.

    Mr Obama views the reduction of arms by the US and Russia as critical to efforts to persuade countries such as Iran not to develop the Bomb.
     
    #1 Faos, Feb 5, 2009
  2. kikimama

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    Dang, I just started Fallout 3 to prepare for Armageddon.
     
    #2 kikimama, Feb 5, 2009
  3. Grizzled

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    It's probably the right time to start this kind of discussion with the Russians.
     
    #3 Grizzled, Feb 5, 2009
  4. lalala902102001

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    Damn...what if the aliens come and attack us?


    J/K. If he can pull this off it would be a great favor for the upcoming generations.
     
    #4 lalala902102001, Feb 5, 2009
  5. glynch

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    Good move to cut back on this waste.
     
    #5 glynch, Feb 5, 2009
  6. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    A nuclear attack is an exclusion on my jewelry insurance. Big thanks to Obama for addressing this pressing concern.

    Is his goal to weaken our country? He just doesn't understand foreign policy, plain and simple. No experience, no gravitas, no balls.
     
    #6 El_Conquistador, Feb 5, 2009
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, because being able to destroy the whole earth 20 times is somehow less threatening than if you could destroy it all 100 times.

    At a certain point it's meaningless.
     
    #7 FranchiseBlade, Feb 5, 2009
  8. esteban

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    I feel so much safer now that Obama got rid of all the nukes, oh wait......I just woke up, I'm in elysium and I'm already dead!

    Thanks for nothing Barry!
     
    #8 esteban, Feb 5, 2009
  9. Rocketman95

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    please explain in detail how reducing the number of nukes, when we will still have enough to destroy the world a dozen times over, will make you any less safe.
     
    #9 Rocketman95, Feb 5, 2009
  10. El_Conquistador

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    Because it says to our enemies, "We are pu$$ies, come attack us."

    NO BALLS
     
    #10 El_Conquistador, Feb 5, 2009
  11. DonnyMost

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    This would be hilarious if I didn't know you think its true.
     
    #11 DonnyMost, Feb 5, 2009
  12. Rocketman95

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    i'm guessing our enemies understand the power of a nuclear bomb and can count.
     
    #12 Rocketman95, Feb 5, 2009
  13. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Nice. Before I even clicked on this thread, I was wondering how you were going to spin it to make this seem like a bad thing.
     
    #13 Steve_Francis_rules, Feb 5, 2009
  14. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Since you have such a better understanding of economics, foreign policy, and domestic policy than the current president of the United States, why don't you throw your hat in the ring next election? As the smartest man in America, it shouldn't be too hard for you to find all the financial backing you need.
     
    #14 Steve_Francis_rules, Feb 5, 2009
  15. surrender

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    I love how the Republicans portrayed Iraq War opponents as "liberal p*****s" in 2003, but now the last few years have shown us that they're afraid of their own ****ing shadow

    OMG THE ARABS AND/OR RUSSIANS ARE COMING
     
    #15 surrender, Feb 5, 2009
  16. Space Ghost

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    Pretty much my thought.

    Only difference is that its one less nuclear warhead that risks falling into the wrong hands.
     
    #16 Space Ghost, Feb 5, 2009
  17. Space Ghost

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    In case you forgot, our "enemies" are not civilized. They would like nothing more than to put this planet in a nuclear war.
     
    #17 Space Ghost, Feb 5, 2009
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    How would are so called Enemy's know how much Nuclear fire power we have,will have,will obtain? It's not like we put that info on Facebook.. So cutting 80 percent sounds good to me.. Doesn't mean we are removing 80 percent of our Nuclear weapons we currently have in stock. Nobody knows the figures for security reason and obviously neither does the world.
     
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  19. Space Ghost

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    I absolutely LOVE how you insinuate that arabs are terrorists.
     
    #19 Space Ghost, Feb 5, 2009
  20. El_Conquistador

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    I can see this scenario playing out as the naive Obama gets worked over by his international counterparts... We destroy our nukes... Russia lets their nukes leak out on to the black market... they fall into the wrong hands... BOOM.

    So let me get this straight... Obama will let Iran develop a nuke on his watch... all the while, we are trimming our arsenal. Makes perfect sense. I'm still not convinced he isn't working on their behalf.
     
    #20 El_Conquistador, Feb 5, 2009
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