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Obama sours Sikh sect, afraid to look Muslim

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  1. basso

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    Brave, brave Sir Robi..., er Obama, seeks to avoid Sikhs..

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    NEW DELHI — The Golden Temple, a sprawling and serene complex of gleaming gold and polished marble that is the spiritual center of the Sikh religion, is one of India’s most popular tourist attractions. Revered by Indians of all faiths, it is a cherished emblem of India’s religious diversity. So it was no surprise when the gold-plated marvel was promoted as the likely third stop on President Obama’s visit to India, scheduled for early November.

    But the United States has ruled out a Golden Temple visit, according to an American official involved in planning. Temple officials said that American advance teams had gone to Amritsar, the holy city that is the site of the temple, to discuss a possible visit. But the plan appears to have foundered on the thorny question of how Mr. Obama would cover his head, as Sikh tradition requires, while visiting the temple.

    “To come to golden temple he needs to cover his head,” said Dalmegh Singh, secretary of the committee that runs the temple. “That is our tradition.”

    Mr. Obama, a Christian, has struggled to fend off persistent rumors that he is a Muslim, and Sikhs in the United States have often been mistaken for Muslims. Sikhism, which arose in the Punjab region in the 15th century, includes elements of Hinduism and Islam but forms a wholly distinct faith. Since Sept. 11, 2001, Sikhs in the United States have been occasional targets of anti-Muslim discrimination and violence — a Sikh was killed in Arizona a few days after the attack on the World Trade Center by a man who mistook him for a Muslim.

    Observant Sikhs do not cut their hair, and Sikh men wear turbans that cover their heads in public. Visitors to Sikh temples, known as gurudwaras, are required to cover their heads and remove their shoes. Baseball caps are not considered appropriate. Sikh scriptures require that men tie a piece of cloth on their heads, not simply put on a hat that can be easily taken off, because the act of tying has spiritual significance. Most non-Sikh visitors tie on kerchiefs sold by vendors outside the temple.

    The Golden Temple is a popular stop for famous visitors. In 1997 the Queen of England padded around the glittering temple in her stocking feet. Another kind of royalty, the scion of the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty that controls India’s Congress Party, Rahul Gandhi has also been to the temple. He sipped tea from a metal bowl there, sitting on the ground like every other visitor, head draped as temple tradition demands. Last year Canada’s prime minister, Stephen Harper, also covered his head when he visited the temple.

    For Mr. Obama, who will be seeking to cement the crucial but sometimes testy relationship between two of the world’s biggest democracies, the temple was one of several possible backdrops intended to convey America’s kinship with India. Mr. Obama will visit Mumbai and New Delhi.

    H. S. Phoolka, a prominent Sikh lawyer in New Delhi, said he was disappointed that Mr. Obama would not visit the temple.

    “We have worked so hard to establish in America that Sikhs have a very different identity than Muslims,” Mr. Phoolka said. “It is very unfortunate that even the White House is conveying the message that there is no difference between Muslims and Sikhs.”
     
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    This from the guy who was criticizing Obama for bowing to the Emperor of Japan.
     
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  4. SamFisher

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    I wore a baseball cap there....twice.......and nobody said a thing. The signs didn't indicate hats were forbidden.

    Oops.
     
  5. basso

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    he apparently wasn't afraid to look Shinto.
     
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    Can you imagine the thread title if the President went to this mosque and dressed in traditional clothes? It would have been undeniable proof Obama was a MOOOSLIM.
     
  7. basso

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    uhmmm, it's not a mosque.

    ignorant redneck...
     
  8. s land balla

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    That's pretty sad.

    Maybe he's afraid of the OCP?

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  9. mc mark

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    Has clutch given you some type of dispensation to be a ******* prick on the BBS or something? Do you want to be banned?
     
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    Yeah, why would Obama be skittish about what he wears. It is not as if that has ever been used against him.

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    Obama is weaksauce. And quite possibly a bigot.
     
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    ^^ Loved that documentary.
     
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    just so i understand correctly, you're calling me an "******* prick" (and elsewhere a POS) and suggesting I'm beyond the pale (as it were?)
     
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    I couldn't find in the article where Obama or his people, or the people who spoke to his people said that this is the reason he rejected the visit?
     
  17. BetterThanI

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    Dude, read this quote:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5521134&postcount=1

    Don't act like you're some white knight who can do no wrong. You ARE an a$$hole prick. Everyone knows it. Stop playing the victim.
     
  18. basso

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    why the $$? don't have the confidence of your (keyboard warrior) convictions? if you mean *******, just say it. I'm sure Jeff will understand.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    They REPORTING everyone in here !

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    DD
     
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    OMG Boorahk Iron Sikh Hoosane Obuma don't want to be seen as a Mooslim for Mor Conzervativ Fotoshop... must post now on the bazketballz forumz.

    With all due respect, you are a non-stop shop for illogical race/religion bating whether you realize it or not.
     

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