[NY Post] Grizzlies shopping their 1st round pick?

they would never sell us the pick, although i would try to buy it if i were the rockets.

we could package both picks to move up or use them both to become very deep. i would love it to happen but it won't

 

That 3 mill that the Grizz wants is pure cash money. It doesn't have anything to do with the salary cap and we don't need a TE to make a deal happen. You can attach up to 3 million onto any deal as an extra incentive. Like in the Deke deal, we sent enough money to Chicago to cover Wilk's salary, because they didn't really want him included. But since we sent the money along, the Bulls could release him without costing them a cent.

I'm not surprised that they want to move their pick for cash. With 3 mill, then can cover the salary for some of their lower priced players for the year, and won't be adding guaranteed money with a 1st round pick.

Mem is picking at #19. I wouldn't mind picking it up, and hoping that a decent forward falls there (Simien, Warrick etc). And then maybe grab a swingman with our #24 (like Francisco Garcia).

 

I say pass... all we need is another Boki.. (15-20 pick)

 

I don't think the Grizz would want to help their division rivalry. And with that 3 mil, Grizz might have a chance to keep Stro.

 

I say buy the pick to move up, then trade the 24th to Orlando (...our "farm team" ) for their 2 second rounders (then get some depth without the guarenteed contracts)

 

BUY that pick! Afterall, it isn't our money. We could always package #24 in a trade with expiring contracts for an experienced 2/3 or 1.

 

When I look at the players projected to go at 19 and later, I'm all for it. Here are the projected picks in that general range I find interesting.

15. Sean May (He could slip a few spots)
18. Joey Graham (could easily slip one spot)
19. Hakim Warrick
20. Johan Petro
21 Monta Ellis
22. CJ Miles
24. Wayne Simien
25. Andray Blatche
26. Kennedy Winston
27. Ronny Turiaf
28. Francisco Garcia

I really like the idea of being able to take one of those guys like May, Graham, Warrick, Turiaf or Simien who could are practically gauranteed to be solid off the bench and then being afforded the luxury of gambling on a highschool kid like Blatche, Miles or Ellis.

 

I think if the Rockets wanted that pick....that MEM would selll it...rivalries be damned.

there is absolutley NO guarantee that the pick is gonna make us more dangerous to them than we already are.

and if the market is indeed as sparse for pick-selling...then they may not have alot of teams wanting it.

oh...and btw...I dont believe that you can trade a TE for a pick...but dont quote me...I seem to recall hearing that...but am not for sure...NIKE or GATER could say for sure

 

m_cable got it right. It's a pure cash thing- however, this is a sure sign Memphis is going to slow up their payroll, and guys like Swift and Watson are probably gone.

The trade exception would have no bearing. The Suns sold their pick last year iirc, as did the Magic a few years ago to be able to sign Hill/TMac- though those were both lotto picks.

 

you say that it has no bearing...and I agree....but is it indeed not allowed to trade the TE for a pick?

jusy wondering if I was remembering right.

 

I don't get it. The Grizzlies knew their cap situation going into last year but went and signed, uh, that white guy for the MLE (too late in the day, memory....shot!)

Bonzi Wells they'll let walk. Stromile will probably walk for nothing (Atlanta, New Orleans....Houston being the long shot with less money to offer.) And yet they're still sucking money-wise.

That draft pick might or might not be valuable, depending on what we would have to give up. JVG could use the picks in trade because he sure as hell won't play a rookie, unless the rookie is just lights out, youknowwhatI'msayin? And someone at #19 or #24 would have to be a real diamond in the rough.

 

Eh, I'm not sure I understand...the point of the TE is to absorb salary. Since picks don't count for salary, you can't trade a TE for a pick.

The TE isn't a "chip" like a draft pick. It has value because it can be used, not as a truly tradeable asset.

 

About this trade, it's not that we can trade 3 million dollars to Mem for their #1 straight up. We can only add the 3 million onto another deal. So we would probably have to swap picks. Send Mem a future 2nd round pick along with 3 million (or less) for their 1st rounder.

Oh and you can't add in cash in order to make deals work capwise. Like you can't add a $1 million salary player and 3 million in cash for a $4 million salary player. It's only used as a sweetener.

 

imo, the rox should do it. Toss some cash at them and see if we can find a gem.

At this point the rox could really use some youth, and if that means not having a roster spot to bring back Bowen or Padgett, then boo-hoo.

 

Sura and Wesley for Williams and their pick; Use the pick to get a SG or SF depending on which position you want to move T-Mac. You still have the expiring contracts to get that power forward you've been clamoring for.

 

I basically feel that late first round picks are virtually a liability. It takes up a guaranteed roster spot for three years. And in my opinion (though clearly a minority opinion around here) you have little chance of drafting a keeper from 20 on. Better off with a second round pick. Virtually equall longshot, but you can dump them if they don't pan out.

That being said, it seems to me that we may have several viable options to choose from from our 24th slot. 19th would give us top choice at that level. and two picks doubles the odds of finding that elusive keeper.

Buy the pick! West's job at Memphis went from 'best gm ever' to 'overpaid middle of the road team' in a hurry. He may be slipping. Take advantage of him on the way down (or out if the LA rumors are correct)!

 

NIKE -
Here's a posible scenario that Rockets2K may be thinking of....

The Rockets have a $3.5m TE and the Grizz apparently want to control payroll by not paying a guaranteed 1st rounder. (Not saying we'd do this but) the Grizz can send Jake Tsakilides @ 2.9m and their #19 to the Rockets.

In return, the Grizz get a $2.9m salary dump that they can use if they want/need to and they don't have to pay the #19. The Rox might have to send other "sweeters" (2nd rd / future 1st), but the net effect on the Grizz payroll is nearly the same as $3m in cash. Effectively, if you discount Jake the Rox and Grizzz have swapped the TE for a pick.

I'm not saying I'd do this, only providing a hypothetical example.

 

These are good points but I really believe it depends on the new CBA. If the NBDL thing is going to be a minor league like in baseball (as it is rumored to be) then I think that drafting a 19 and a 24 is a great idea. If they suck or need time to develop, we can just send to Austin and wait for improvment.

However, this all depends on the CBA, and if it doesnt work out in this way, then I absolutely agree with you.

 

I think it's a deal you have to. This pick would be huge for us.