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[NY Daily News] Sixers Are Fielding Offers For Miller

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by smoothie, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    November 25, 2007 - 10:38 am

    New York Daily News -

    The Sixers are open to fielding offers for Andre Miller (Cleveland and Miami are seen as his prime suitors) and plan to give Lou Williams more minutes at the point.

    In the meantime, Andre Iguodala, who didn't get the contract extension he was looking for, is taking more shots and turning the ball over more than anyone on the team, and complaining more, too. "His body language is worse than Iverson's ever was," reports one teammate.


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    Player File - Andre Miller

    the knock against him is that he's never been a 3pt shooter. the plus side is that he's shoots 46% from the field. compaired to rafer's FG% that's a breath of fresh air.

    actually, i take that back, compaired to rafer, tmac, shane, bonzi, james, etc... it's a breath of fresh air.

    no more missed mid range shots, floaters, tear drops. no more hurried 3's after an offencive rebound. he brings all the things that earned rafer the starting spot (gets team in offense early, low turn overs, good passer) and he keeps the FG% up with smart shots. something the whole team can get used to.

    he does make a lot of money, but his contract is over after next season. that means that at next season's deadline, the rockets will be holding a $9M ending contract. in past seasons players like baron davis were traded for ending contracts that large. pau gasol was another player who would've been traded for an ending contract if the bulls accepted the deal. i'm sure that we'd want to keep a PG like miller, but you never know what offers come around.

    he's worth a package of rafer (replacement pg) and kirk (ending contract) + after that i'd give them the choice of luther (prospect) or steve (ending contract).

    i'd even be willing to throw a future first at them for this kind of PG.

    since no one on the team is signed past tmac's contract year (except yao and shane) i think the team will try not to add any more contracts longer than that. that may include the next two first round picks. sure we can draft a euro and keep him overseas, but we're trying to win now.

    i'd be pretty upset if the rockets didn't explore this move. thoughts?
     
  2. ind0fo0

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    how many assissts does he average?
     
  3. Shay

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    Miller is good , don't know if we have what they are looking for.
     
  4. New Jack

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    Wow, that package sucks. If you want a starting caliber point guard, be prepared to give up at least Battier or Scola.
     
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    First, I never liked Iguodala. I've seen him play up-close a few times and always thought he was a selfish punk. He reminds of me those cocky H.S. football jocks who do their own thing and don't give f@ck about anything else. All they do is working out and trying to get laid by a cheerleader.

    Iguodala is also a very introverted guy. During shoot arounds, he rarely talks to his teammates and I'm sure stays to himself most of the time outside of gams.

    So who would want a guy who doesn't smile, talk, or even care about the rest of the team????? Kinda reminds me of Roid-up J.R. Reid.
     
  6. thewaterox

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    I thought this was about trading for Miller not Iguodala? :confused:

    We won't deal for Miller because to do so this early says all of our PG moves in the off season were mistakes. MJ or Francis hell even Brooks was supposed to give us a legit starting PG but guess what Alston is still your starter and that says tons about the Rockets off season guard aquisitions.
     
  7. smoothie

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    a package of rafer, kirk, and steve will save them about $9M over the next 2 years. throw in a first round pick for a 32 year old player and i think they will be interested.

    they don't need talent. a rebuilding team needs ending contracts and picks.

    compare that package to one from the cavs who can't afford to give up gooden, marshall or ilgauskas because those are the only 3 bigs they have. houghs makes too much to make the trade work. it would have to be either snow or jones with an ending contract of newble and shannon brown. that's no better than our package.

    miami probably has the inside track since they can offer jason williams ending contract to cover millers. but will they be willing to part with a first round pick?

    all in all i'd say it's a solid offer. look at what iverson was traded for:

    andre miller (downgrade replacement), joe smith (ending contract), picks.

    now for miller:

    rafer alston (down grade replacement), kirk snyder/steve francis (endings), future first.

    i'd say it's about right.
     
  8. saleem

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    You're right we don't.
     
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    Sixers probably want a first round draft pick, an expiring contract, a decent PG for Miller.
     
  10. Old Man Rock

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    Explore it yes. Make it a reality not likely. The 76'ers would be better off just releasing him than taking our trash for him. I think they would like to get draft picks that have lottery potential for miller along with an expiring contract and/or a young player with lots of upside and maybe a little garbage.
     
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    The reason most people don't like rafer is the fact that he can't knock down open 3's. Will Miller can't shoot at all, so i don't see why we would be interested in him.
     
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    Where do they get the $9 million dollars in savings?

    Andre Miller has one year left on his deal after this season worth about $10 million.

    Rafer Alston has two years left after this year for about $10 million total.
     
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    i disagree. if the sixers were to take luther instead of steve in the package that i suggested, then we would be left with miller starting, mj still backing up the 1 and steve backing up the 2. they can't be mistakes if they are contributing in the rotation. brooks will remain the PG of the future since miller, francis, and james are in their 30's.
     
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    I'm trying to remember how Miller is on the defensive end. Does he have any defense? He just got through playing 48 minutes in a game for the Sixers, so it looks like they are shopping him, showing he is healthy and can give you solid minutes. My thoughts? I wouldn't trade key pieces of our future for him (Scola), but we have more players than we can find minutes for. If we could get together a package the Sixers would take that wouldn't hurt us badly elsewhere in the lineup, you'd have to consider it.
     
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    my mistake. i miscalculated.

    miller earns $9M. that's $18M left on a 2 year contract.

    snyder and steve are off the books for next season saving roughly the amount of rafers last year.
     
  16. saleem

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    I would never give up Scola for A.Miller. I think New Jack is not proposing that we should give Scola up in a package but it would take at least him or Battier to make the Sixers think about dealing with us.There is no doubt he is better than anyone we have but I'm not sure if he would be the best fit for our team.
     
  17. New Jack

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    The end result is the same. They would be on the hook for $19 million over 3 years (including this year) if they made the trade, rather than $18 million over 2 years if they just keep Miller. They’re not saving any money.
     
  18. Rocket River

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    Man .. . steve has a good game and the haters come out trying to trade him :rolleyes:

    Miller is good but 10 Million of good?
    If the knock on SF was that bad teams didn't want him
    What does it say about Miller on a bad philly team?

    He is good and ok but I don't think I wanna give up a #1 Draft Pick
    plus others for him.

    Re have to ReStock while we go for the Championship

    Rocket River
     
  19. smoothie

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    i understand that, and normally it would take alot more. in this instant the most interested suitors are cleveland and miami.

    tell me who you think they will give up for him?

    the cavs can't afford to part with another big (they are down to only 3), and houghs makes too much for a deal to work. they have to throw together a package of scraps that will include ending contracts and probably one of thier PG's. much like us. unless the sixers are dumb enough to S&T miller for varejao. a rebuilding team doesn't want to take on large contracts.

    miami is a different story. they can just swap williams for miller. jwill will come off the books at seasons end. that's pretty good for the sixers, but i think they might consider the rockets offer if we throw in a pick which miami can't afford to do.
     
  20. Mehdi

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    Juust say no...give the team some time
     

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