Now that he's playing well again, do you like Vince Carter more or less?

This should be a poll...

I like him better... He obviously wanted out of Toronto. His name can now be said in the same breath with Kobe and Tmac again. Toronto probably should have got more for him.

 

I think vince when healthy is better than Tmac or at least was. He took his team to the eastern conference finals. Tmac hasn't led any team that far. Hopfully he can show this season that he is better.

 

I agree with you that Jason Kidd wills VC to play up to his potential. I don't like VC much because he is not mentally tough and is not a leader. A player with his talent should be both. I don't think he is a winner either. I can't forget his playoff performances in Toronto where he would completely stop going to the hoop and just shoot long jumpshots. When the jumpers weren't going in, VC was like, "Oh well, just wasn't my day today." It didn't seem like losing in the playoffs bothered him. I think Oakley is an idiot but he had VC pegged pretty well when he called him out years ago.

To answer your question, I don't like VC any more or less. His performance with the Nets just proves he isn't washed up.

 

I like him..I want him to do well..I wish he was on the ROckets

 

I'm surprised by the number of positive responses. Sure, he's shown he's still a top player, but it proves the fact the he was basically tanking games for the Raptors early in the season.

You see the Orlando Sentinal bash Tmac for shutting it down the last 10 games of a hopeless season, but what Carter did is so much worse. He half-assed it at the beginning of fresh season, even when his teammates were playing well, when the Raptors had a good chance of having a decent season with the talent they had. He blatantly tried to hurt his team for his own personal gain. Less.

 

Yea, thats true, but the average fan tends to like and appreciate a player that is doing well.

Fickle fans... tsk tsk tsk

 

half-man, half-season

 

That's old news buddy... he's been quite healthy for the past couple of seasons.. infact healthier than Tmac has been. I do believe a healthy Carter is just as good as Kobe and Tmac... You can say he's not a leader, but neither is Tmac.. you can say he's not a winner, but he's won more than Tmac and Kobe has (when they were the lone star on their teams)

Toronto just has horrible management.. that team is in big trouble to losing Bosh as well...

 

is that right?

Past 5 seasons (including games played up until this Sunday).

368 (T-Mac) to 322 games played for carter , for the past 5 seasons.

 

When did Vince Carter take his team to the Eastern Conference Finals?

Vince Carter is heartless and soft. Can't stand being the #1 man.
Jordan air apparent? hell no.

 

Take away age and I'd still rather build a team around TMac or Kobe. The guy isn't clutch and he has some diva issues that he shouldn't have given that he has won so little.

Are you an Iverson fan?

 

The season that followed was funnier...

He's pulled off some incredible stuff, but he's carried that stigma of disappointment when the games really matter. You could say the same with TMac, so I guess my biases are showing.

 

Less. It's clear that he was mailing it in for the past three years.

New Jersey is banking its future on Kidd and Carter's health, as well as Carter's desire. They'd have been better trading Kidd for a package of younger players/draft picks, and keeping the picks they burned in the Carter deal.

 

I actually like Vince. I am glad he is finding success in NJ. Pairing him with Kidd/Jefferson is a great idea. That way Vince can just go out there and score. Kidd/Jefferson can be the leaders of the team and Vince can just be Vince.

I kind of liken it to anyone in their job situation. If you HATE were you work you arent going to put in 100%. If you ENJOY where you work then you put in 100% or even more. And that's the case with Vince. He hated his last few years in Toronto and is loving life in NJ. That explains the differential of success (minus the injuries of course).

Much like the Orlando situation with Tmac, Toronto did a TERRIBLE job of adding complimentary players around Vince there to help them succeed and after a while Vince got fed up with it. It was time to move on.

It will be good for Toronto too, at least in the long run. It allows Chris Bosh (who I really like) more room to grow as the main cog on that team. Right now the Raptors just need to purge some salary and get some more quality young guys to build for the future, and build around Bosh.

 

Like him less. For him to show he really was dogging it in Toronto, I consider that as bad as tanking games. It's insulting to the league and its fans. I'd have tons more respect if he just (originally) came out and said he wanted a trade but continued to play hard.

I hope that prima donna never sniffs at so much as the 2nd Round the rest of his career.

Evan

 

The biggest difference between the two:

T-Mac has that killer instinct. Vince simply isn't capable of putting up 13 points in the final 35 secs to win a game (for example). He might hit a couple of threes, then he'd start thinking about it too much and brick one. When T-Mac is in the zone, he doesn't think about whether or not he can do it -- he just DOES it.

Honestly, if the Nets offered us Vince and Kidd for T-Mac, I'd turn them down. (If I were the GM, that is. )

 

I like him a lot more. He actually DESERVES his all star games now.