Wake up the Echoes!! Oh wait...they already are awake Dillingham played smart. The defense was awesome again!!! Bring on Pitt 5 and Oh, baby!!!
Stanford is from the Pac-10. I hear that the Pac-10 is the best best over all best conference in the Nation. Stanford might suck though, I dunno.
Ok. I'm not a ND fan by any means. But I'm can't really identify by the hardcore hatred of the Irish. Did they reject your application or something Manny?
I don't like Notre Dame for the same reasons I don't like the Yankees. They are just one of those teams that you pull for to lose just because of name value.
Um, Nomar they didn't. I only applied to 2 schools and got accepted to both when I graduated high school in Tennessee Tech and Auburn despite getting floods of damn letters every day asking me to apply to this school or that school or whatever. But some people, as crazy as it sounds (I know you can't relate), would rather stay close to home then go somewhere like 7 hours or so away. Oh and this "hardcore" hate for the Irish is something you wouldn't understand. I mean you were still in diapers the last time Notre Dame was *any* good, but for people who are significantly older than you, some of us got pretty damn tired of hearing from the media of how great Notre Dame was even when they sucked (58-7 drubbing at the hands of Miami in '85 was sweet!). Does that help you any, hmmm?
Manny, Have you ever thought of channeling that hate into something positive? Seems like a big waste of time (as well as immature) to go around with so much hate.
Bob, I won't deny that I dislike Notre Dame. Yes some of it has to do with their history with Miami (Miami SHOULD have won 3 straight NCs from 1987-1989), but more of it has to do with what Kam said: the majority of sports fans out there, it seems to me, gets tired of hearing about the same old teams: the Yankees the Lakers North Carolina basketball Notre Dame football etc. What exacerbates the situation with Notre Dame is that for the most part since Lou Holtz left they have been a mediocre program at best. Like USC and some of these other programs that like to live in the past, they have snowed the media every year into thinking they will be good at the beginning of the season. If they would actually beat a top 5 team like they did under Holtz, then I would have no problem hearing people proclaim "that they are back". However, that is yet to happen. I will say that Tyrone Willingham will be their best coach since Holtz and the one that *can* get them to that level of being a top 5 team; however, I think kids coming out of high school are looking at other places to go in playing college football than ND. That mystique of "Touchdown Jesus", luck of Irish, etc doesn't lure people like it used to. If I really *intensely hated* Notre Dame, I would become obsessed about talking about it in every fricking thread here on college football like one Sooner fan likes to do. However, I have yet to start a thread that says something original like "Notre Dame sucks." However, at the same time, I will keep reminding you and anyone else who thinks that Notre Dame "is back" that until they beat a team like FSU in Tallahassee, it is nothing more than the usual media hype. If ND beats FSU, you WILL hear me admit that I was wrong about them; however, until then, I am not impressed.
What is people's problem with me going to an out of state private school! Where does the anger come from! And why!
Ty will bring in kids that otherwise would not go to ND. Yet for some reason you come wandering into every Notre Dame thread and proclaim your hate for ND. You do "intensly hate" Notre Dame, there is no denying that. I honestly could care less. Thats your problem. They have already far exceeded what anyone thought they would accomplish in Ty's first year as coach. Beating FSU would just be icing on the cake. If somehow Miami makes it to the Fiesta Bowl, Notre Dame will be eating ice cream too.
As I said before, I come into every Notre Dame thread to remind you and others that think that the Irish are something this year they hadn't played anyone. Are you going to post a ND thread if they beat Navy? I'm just being devil's advocate here, ya know? Er, no sir, will never happen (in ND beating Miami) for a number of reasons with the biggest being that the Irish athletes are light-years away from competing with the likes of McGahee, William Joseph, Andre Johnson, Kellen Winslow II, Jonathan Vilma, etc. Hell, Miami has a redshirt freshman WR in Roscoe Parrish who is better than any of the QBs on Notre Dame's roster at QB. And yes, I know that you are joking here, but I would love nothing more than for Notre Dame to somehow get to the National Championship game to play Miami. If you thought '85 was bad , just imagine what the Fiesta Bowl will turn out to be.
The hatred for ND, is that they have a "holier than thou" attitude in college football. They have their own licensing, their own TV network, are guaranteed a spot in the BCS, for winning 9 measley games, and they don't want to be a normal team, and join a conference, because they would lose their TV deal and licensing. I hate ND for the mere fact that they are always overrated. If ND weren't always overrated, then I wouldn't care either way for them. The one thing I respect about ND, is that they don't recruit players who have 900 SAT scores, and have no intention on going to school to LEARN something. ND's academic standards for incoming football players shows that they don't seperate football from school, like FSU, UF, Miami, Tennessee, etc.
Are you Irish or Irish-American. I'm Irish American...25%. Dad went to Notre Dame. Rooting for ND has been passed down for generations. That process will probably stop with me. We will be rooting for Rice. It is important to teach your kids to root for live sports (not that stuff on TV) and to root for the school with the highest graduation rate for student athletes in the nation (true fact). And learning how to handle defeat is humbling, good for the soul, and helps prevents raising bandwagoners. GO OWLS!!!!
Irish-American (whatever that means)...100% A friend of mine has a brother who went to Rice. His Roomate while at Rice was none other than Tommy Kramer. Remember him? He brought him over the house one day and we ran pass patterns while TK threw to us. I also used to go to quite a few Rice Basketball games when Ricky Pierce played. He was an awesome player. Yeah, who better to ask about suffering than the Irish.