From http://www.foxsports.com/nba/hou/teamreport.sml : The Pistons and Magic owe the Rockets first-round picks, but failed to convey the picks by this week's deadline. The Rockets were likely not waiting by the phone since both clubs made it clear they were going to hold on to their picks. But the deadline that passed only is the date by which teams must accept draft picks sent to complete a trade. If the Magic or Pistons choose to move a pick later, the Rockets would not have to accept it and would still be owed the pick. The only real possibility of that is if a team has an eye on a particular player, loses the chance to draft him and tries to dump the pick. But that's enough to have the Rockets still working to evaluate players they would not take at No. 9. <HR WIDTH=75%> I hadn't realized that distinction, or noticed it mentioned here before. ------------------
I think this is a mistake by the Pistons by not giving up their pick this year, when Grant Hill leaves this year, they are really going to suck and we should get a higher pick from Detroit in the future. They got the 14th pick this year and it should move up in the following years and this will be great for the Rockets and allow Rudy and CD to do their magic. ------------------
More importantly maybe, is the possibility that any of the picks mentioned, can be conveyed in any number of ways. Including: by way of trade, swap of picks, outright purchase, private agreement, etc.... The deadline is put there to protect the parties from a blindsided conveyance and some give some room to weighing and accepting the draft pick. The issue does not end with the passing of the deadline. ------------------
Are either of these picks unprotected? Otherwise, I would imagine that the upcoming trades of Stackhouse and potentially Hill will garner a first rounder somewhere from, more than likely, a playoff contender (i.e. if Hill were to play for NY). ------------------
I think the Detroit pick has to be their own, cause its via Philadelphia, and they can't give us one of their own, but I'm not positive. I think it'd be great to get the Magic pick (if it was #10 or #13) this year, as next year, we aren't gonna get better, and more likely in the 20s range. The Detroit pick....if that ended up top 5, the Rockets would look like geniuses for NOT taking Rashard Lewis. ------------------ Rockets fans wanted at hoopsboards.com Draft Chat, NBA Chat, Team Chat, and more!
Achebe-We got the pick in a trade with Philadelphia, not Detroit. I would've thought that Philly would just give us a pick, not specify the rights to the pick from Detroit if it was unconditional. I also don't think it's lottery protected if next year is the last year, and if its Detroit's choice. ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better.
cool, then here's to the east getting alot stronger within the next year (so that Detroit won't be in the playoffs) [This message has been edited by Achebe (edited June 20, 2000).]
Or here's to NY or Orlando signing Grant Hill for the exception/max. ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better.
From my understanding of the trade Detroit made with Philadelphia, there was an 8 (!) year window in which Detroit had to deliver a first rounder to Philadelphia. The only place I've heard that Detroit has to give up the pick any time soon is on this board. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Hobbs (edited June 20, 2000).]
the question is when did Philly get the pick from Detroit...it wasn't the Stackhouse trade. ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better.
Actually, it was the Stackhouse trade. The trade was Theo Ratliff, Aaron McKie, and a first rounder for Jerry Stackhouse, Eric Montross and a second rounder. This pick most definitely, with 100% accuracy is pick from the Stackhouse trade because that's the only one Detroit traded to Philadelphia. ------------------
Hobbs-are you positive? From Stackhouses' nba.com-http://www.nba.com/playerfile/career/jerry_stackhouse.html Selected by the Philadelphia 76ers in the first round (third pick overall) of the 1995 NBA Draft. Traded by the 76ers with Eric Montross to the Detroit Pistons for Theo Ratliff, Aaron McKie and future considerations on 12/18/97. No mention of picks... ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better.
100% positive. As I've mentioned before, I'm a Detroit fan. The Stackhouse trade was exactly as I laid it out in my previous post. No doubt about it at all. The conditions on the pick are the only questions I don't remember exactly, but they do have a couple more seasons before it's due (and they get a Philly 2nd rounder when they deliver the pick) ------------------ [This message has been edited by Hobbs (edited June 21, 2000).]
