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Not giving a sense of entitlement to lowly-motivated players, good or bad?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Feb 25, 2011.

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How would you treat talented but unmotivated players?

  1. He has talent. Got to give him lots of minutes

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  2. Let him understand that he's just one player regardless of how awesome he could be

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  3. I don't think it matters either way.

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  1. meh

    meh Member

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    Well, figured there are already so many TWill threads I might as well make another one. Not like there's much else to discuss before the end of the season anyway.

    Simple question. If you were the coach, and you have a highly talented, not-so-motivated player like TWill, do you let him sit and brew for a while? Or do you immediately give him the ball and let him develop on the court?
     
  2. cheke64

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    where did you get that TW isnt motivated?
     
  3. meh

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    Because 2nd year players putting up massive stats in their rookie year(won rookie of the month once) don't get sent to the D-Leagues?
     
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    Why would you say TWill is not motivated? I haven't seen or heard that. I actually read a tweet of his the other day that said, he loves Houston, wants to be here and just wants a chance to play. It wasn't his normal bs.

    I think the guy now more than ever deserves a shot to play. I think he has the physical tools of a star, mentally I'm not so sure just yet. If he works hard, has the right attitude, I could see him being pretty damn good.
     
  5. TXRoxBBall

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    I think they need to play all the young guys including thabeet. See what they have and hopefully increase their value for next year.
     
  6. Ottomaton

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    If I had to guess, I would say that he is motivated, but he just doesn't respond to coaching. He seems to play pretty hard on the floor and on the defensive end.
     
  7. iconoclastic

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    Jordan Hill I would characterize as someone who is unmotivated.

    T-Willy on the other hand, is just stubborn and doesn't want to change his style of play, a la Steve Francis.

    Still, I think it wouldn't be such a bad thing to try an iso-system for a while and see if we can become a better team with T-Willy leading us than the current system leading us to .500.
     
  8. TheFreak

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    The 'current system' is leading the team to the 5th ranked offense in the league right now. Your suggestion is to abandon that and instead hand the keys over to an unproven 2nd year player in T-Will? You think this will actually produce better results than what we are currently seeing?

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  9. roslolian

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    Um, wasn't T-will ranting on twitter about his lack of playing time? Also didn't he treat his d league stint as an insult of the highest regard? I don't kno if he has low work ethic (god I hope not), but he certainly isn't low motivated.

    To be quite honest I thought this thread would apply more to Chase, Hill and Thabeet, all guys with limitless potential but sadly lack any motivation to step up on the court.
     
  10. Red.Glare

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    I believe that it all boils down to personal motivations. Not how motivated an individual is to win, but instead, what they want out of life. Bud is a good example. He seems to strive for happiness, as opposed to power and fame. Don't think he needs fame nor worshipers to be happy or feel good about himself. He's playin' ball, getting paid and life is good. If he improves, its for him, not the glamour. Though he does have a lot of personal pride.

    T-Will is likely a bit immature still. Wants the limelight and more Type A. As always with maturity, some eventually get there with time (mature), others never grow up and see the big picture. They never are able to see beyond themselves (selfish) and instant gratification. Like Iverson was most of his career. I'm afraid Hill is more laid back like Bud, but without the snap to make quick decisions. Doesn't mean he isn't bright, just some people are more followers and not leaders. Hence unable to make their own decisions quickly. But then again, I've never met one of them...I'm in Physics, not Psychology.
     
  11. thetatomatis

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    Each situation is different and player. Whatever works.
     
  12. BMoney

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    We need more type A players, frankly.
     
  13. iconoclastic

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    The players who are leading the team to the 5th ranked offense are also playing porous defense. If T-Willy is able to keep our offense in, say, the top 10, while improving our defensive up about 7 spots, isn't that an improvement for our team?

    Think outside the box, man. This team as constructed isn't going anywhere! Might as well take a chance. If it fails, we get a higher draft pick, so it's win-win!
     
  14. thetatomatis

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    quit frankly thats not the coaches problem player isnt motivated. Its the GMs for bringing one here and then now knowing he would be unmotivated because he doesnt know Adelman wont use him. Didnt scout the player better to know how he might act after he doesnt know in the first place the coach wont play him to create that situation. So there are two things going on here. The player himself and the situation he is put into.
     
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    Dude is begging to play, how is he unmotivated? He has his flaws, that isn't one. The better question is do you play a guy who has more potential to be great or the lower ceiling guys who have been here longer.
     
  16. Danckchi

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    I have this feeling that the GM and the coach are not in sync. Does anyone else have that feeling?
     
  17. thetatomatis

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    That too is another great point. How is he unmotivated when he is begging to play? I think you have him confused with Brooks. Disgruntled is more like it for not playing. The GM didnt do his homework and know this about him when it was practically the book on him. Also the book on how Adelman does young players. GM didnt anticipate that situation. Alot GM Morey is not doing lately and thats starting to irk me a little.
     
  18. TheFreak

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    A perimeter player is not going to improve your defense by that much. Heck just look at Battier once Yao went down. Look at Ariza last year with no interior defense. Quite simply there is not a strong case for Williams playing if the goal is to win games.
     
  19. iconoclastic

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    I'll give you that, but another reason to feature T-Will is that he gives our team perhaps the best chance to have a star, and no star players are going to be willing to come to Houston unless we already have a star.
     
  20. meh

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    The responses in this thread baffles me. How can you equate "wanting to play" with motivation?

    Motivation is to help the TEAM as much as possible. It's to play in a way that helps the TEAM wins. It's to improve yourself and play in a way that's conducive to winning, to improve your areas of weakness and harden your areas of strength. It's the work hard on defense, to not make lazy passes, to always give your full effort.

    Do fans honestly believe that TWill thinks the above? Or that he just want to go in and put up stats?
     

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