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Not even Nixon...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jul 2, 2009.

  1. basso

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    ...Tried to Control the Media Like Obama: Helen Thomas [rquoter]
    Wednesday, July 01, 2009
    By Penny Starr and Fred Lucas


    President Obama is introduced before taking questions during a discussion on health care, July 1, 2009, at Northern Virginia Community College in Annandale , Va. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
    (CNSNews.com) - Following a testy exchange during Wednesday’s briefing with White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, veteran White House correspondent Helen Thomas told CNSNews.com that not even Richard Nixon tried to control the press the way President Obama is trying to control the press.

    “Nixon didn’t try to do that,” Thomas said. “They couldn’t control (the media). They didn’t try.

    “What the hell do they think we are, puppets?” Thomas said. “They’re supposed to stay out of our business. They are our public servants. We pay them.”

    Thomas said she was especially concerned about the arrangement between the Obama Administration and a writer from the liberal Huffington Post Web site. The writer was invited by the White House to President Obama’s press conference last week on the understanding that he would ask Obama a question about Iran from among questions that had been sent to him by people in Iran.

    “When you call the reporter the night before you know damn well what they are going to ask to control you,” Thomas said.

    “I’m not saying there has never been managed news before, but this is carried to fare-thee-well--for the town halls, for the press conferences,” she said. “It’s blatant. They don’t give a damn if you know it or not. They ought to be hanging their heads in shame.”

    During today’s briefing, Thomas interrupted a back-and-forth between Gibbs and Chip Reid, the White House correspondent for CBS News, when Reid was questioning Gibbs about who was going to decide what questions would be asked of President Obama in a townhall meeting that was scheduled to take place in Annandale, Va., today.

    Gibbs then had an exchange involving Reid and Thomas that went as follows:

    Gibbs: “… But, again, let's--How about we do this? I promise we will interrupt the AP's tradition of asking the first question. I will let you [Chip Reid] ask me a question tomorrow as to whether you thought the questions at the town hall meeting that the President conducted in Annandale—“

    Chip Reid: “I'm perfectly happy to—”

    Helen Thomas: “That's not his point. The point is the control--”

    Reid: “Exactly.”

    Thomas: “We have never had that in the White House. And we have had some, but not-- This White House.”

    Gibbs: “Yes, I was going to say, I'll let you amend her question.”

    Thomas: “I'm amazed. I'm amazed at you people who call for openness and transparency and—”

    Gibbs: “Helen, you haven't even heard the questions.”

    Reid: “It doesn't matter. It's the process.”

    Thomas: “You have left open—”

    Reid: “Even if there's a tough question, it's a question coming from somebody who was invited or was screened, or the question was screened.”

    Thomas: “It's shocking. It's really shocking.”

    Gibbs: “Chip, let's have this discussion at the conclusion of the town hall meeting. How about that?”

    Reid: “Okay.”

    Gibbs: “I think—“

    Thomas: “No, no, no, we're having it now--”

    Gibbs: “Well, I'd be happy to have it now.”

    Thomas: “It's a pattern.”

    Gibbs: “Which question did you object to at the town hall meeting, Helen?”

    Thomas: “It's a pattern. It isn't the question—”

    Gibbs: “What's a pattern?”

    Thomas: “It's a pattern of controlling the press.”

    Gibbs: “How so? Is there any evidence currently going on that I'm controlling the press--poorly, I might add.”

    Thomas: “Your formal engagements are pre-packaged.”

    Gibbs: “How so?”

    Reid: “Well, and controlling the public—”

    Thomas: “How so? By calling reporters the night before to tell them they're going to be called on. That is shocking.”

    Gibbs: “We had this discussion ad nauseam and—”

    Thomas: “Of course you would, because you don't have any answers.”

    Gibbs: “Well, because I didn't know you were going to ask a question, Helen.
    Go ahead.”

    Thomas: “Well, you should have.”

    Reporter: Thank you for your support.

    Gibbs: “That's good. Have you e-mailed your question today?”

    Thomas: “I don't have to e-mail it. I can tell you right now what I want to ask.”

    Gibbs: “I don't doubt that at all, Helen. I don't doubt that at all.”

    Thomas, 89, has covered the White House during every presidency since John F. Kennedy’s. [/rquoter]
     
  2. tingYAO

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    Come on Basso, lets get Obama!
    We Can do this together :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Are you upset that Obama answered a question from an IRanian who was in Iran at a press conference dealing with Iran? I thought you were on the side of the Iranian people.

    Why do you not want Iranians' questions answered?

     
  4. surrender

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    Not even Nixon? I seem to recall that the previous president asked questions to a planted gay prostitute in the press room...
     
  5. Rocketman95

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    this is great news for mccain!
     
  6. mc mark

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    Welcome to the new world order
     
  7. mtbrays

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    I wonder how good Frank Langella's portrayal of Barack Obama will be in Thomas/Obama.
     
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    This ranks somewhere with Bush calling up reporters in pairs ("like we were in grammar school") before a prime-time Iraq news conference and Reagen calling up reporters and forcing them into a seating plan.

    In other words, bits of trivia that will only matter in Jeopardy.

    And which the general public will not give two s***s about. Town house meetings are about as fake as a toodaloo, but anyone with two bits of sense knows that Obama is more or less just a common politician...although one with unnatural skill and ability.
     
  9. Rashmon

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    This revelation has shaken my faith in my country.

    Thanks, basso.

    I know this is great news for McCain, but how much do you think this improves Sarah Palin's chances in the next election?
     
  10. Major

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    I like how Obama was trying to control the press by taking an unprepped question that turned out to be the toughest of the entire press conference.
     
  11. KingCheetah

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    Not even Nixon...
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  12. Invisible Fan

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    They should bring that gay rightwing fake reporter back for some balance and fairity.
     
  13. A_3PO

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    The OP is from a guy who accused someone else of being obsessed. Hmm.
     
  14. BrooksBall

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    "You can't control me, young man!"

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    Basso do you always agree with Helen Thomas or only when she has something bad to say about your "idol"
     
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    I know this is a basso thread and thus automatically not taken seriously, but if the excuse for Obama's less-than-transparent behavior is that all other politicians do it, it seems like we didn't get what we were promised before the election.

    What has Obama been besides more of the same? His appologists might want to reflect on that a while.
     
  17. MadMax

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    I agree with this. We need to get past the team politics viewpoints...past the constant defense or attack of our elected officials based solely on whether they're on our team or the other team.

    The administration, I believe, has created some appearances...or facilitated the creation of appearances...that they're less than transparent....despite transparency being a key value of Obama's campaign...and that they seek to control the media.

    Helen Thomas isn't exactly Rush Limbaugh. I don't think she's intentionally being unfair to the administration with these criticisms.

    What am I missing?
     
  18. Batman Jones

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    Who are his apologists? It seems to me there's been a healthy amount of criticism directed at Obama from people on this board who supported his election.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    I don't think there's anything not transparent about this - it's more of a new media/old media grousing. Had the "hand picked" reporter been from the Washington Post and not the Huffington Post - I'm willing to bet ther would have been substantially lesss furor.
     
  20. MadMax

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    derail - i got notice this morning that Batman: Year One and The Killing Joke are on reserve for me at my local library branch :)
     

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