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North, South Korean forces trade fire

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  1. Luckyazn

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    Seoul, South Korea (CNN) -- In a sharp escalation of hostility along their disputed sea border, North Korean and South Korean forces traded fire Tuesday, a deadly skirmish that jacked up diplomatic tensions in a volatile region.

    Two South Korean marines were killed and 15 South Korean soldiers and civilians were wounded when the North fired about 100 rounds of artillery at Yeonpyeong Island in the Yellow Sea, South Korea authorities said, according to the South Korean Yonhap news agency.

    South Korea's military responded with more than 80 rounds of artillery and deployed fighter jets to counter the fire, defense officials said.

    Firing between the two sides lasted for about an hour in the Yellow Sea, a longstanding flashpoint between the two Koreas. In March, a South Korean warship, the Cheonan, was sunk in the area with the loss of 46 lives in a suspected North Korean torpedo attack.

    "Restraint should be exercised on both sides," said Stephen Bosworth, the U.S. special envoy on North Korean denuclearization. He was in Beijing to discuss nuclear matters and spoke to reporters.

    This latest action occurred during South Korean maritime military drills.

    In Seoul, the South Korea government swiftly denounced the action as an "indisputable armed provocation against the Republic of Korea. Making matters worse, it even indiscriminately fired against civilians. Such actions will never be tolerated."

    In its statement, the South Korean government said it "immediately and strongly responded to the provocation in accordance with the rules of engagement" and will retaliate against any additional acts of provocation in a resolute manner."

    After the incident, Yonhap news agency in South Kore said the Seoul government "banned its nationals from entering the communist state, indefinitely postponed their scheduled Red Cross talks and began looking at ways to push the United Nations to condemn Pyongyang."

    North Korea, meanwhile, said the incident stemmed from South Korean military drills, codenamed Hoguk, exercises that Pyongyang calls "war maneuvers for a war of aggression."

    The "South Korean puppet group" engaged in "reckless military provocation" by firing "dozens of shells" inside its territorial waters "despite the repeated warnings of the DPRK" or Democratic People's Republic of Korea, the North's military said in a statement.

    "The revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK standing guard over the inviolable territorial waters of the country took such decisive military step as reacting to the military provocation of the puppet group with a prompt powerful physical strike," the statement said.

    "It is a traditional mode of counter-action of the army of the DPRK to counter the firing of the provocateurs with merciless strikes," said the statement, which warned that it "will unhesitatingly continue taking merciless military counter-actions against it" if the border is crossed.

    This incident comes after a U.S. scientist reported that North Korea has a new uranium enrichment facility. North Korean officials said the facility is operating and producing low-enriched uranium, according to Stanford University professor Siegfried S. Hecker.

    The enrichment facility contains 2,000 centrifuges and appears to be designed for nuclear power production, "not to boost North Korea's military capability," Hecker says.

    But U.S. and South Korean diplomats said the latest relevation confirms the country's long-term deceit.

    Sanctions have been progressively placed on North Korea in response to a succession of nuclear and missile tests and the sinking of the South Korean warship in March.

    The United States said it would not dismiss restarting six-party talks aimed at denuclearizing the North. However, it said it would not return to negotiations unless North Korea showed good faith.

    Countries that had been negotiating with North Korea over its nuclear program issued swift reaction.

    The United States "strongly" condemned North Korea's action, and a U.S. Defense Department official told CNN that the "hope is that this is just one isolated incident, not an escalation into a different military posture" by the North.

    Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said China had "taken note of relevant reports" and expressed its "concern." "Relevant facts need to be verified and we hope both parties make more contributions to the stability of the peninsula," he said.

    Russia's Interfax news agency said Russia condemned North Korea's artillery shelling and said "those who initiated the attack on a South Korean island in the northern part of the inter-Korean maritime border line assumed enormous responsibility."

    Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan's cabinet held a ministerial meeting and Chief Cabinet Secretary Yo****o Sengoku announced a government statement condemning North Korea and calling the act "unpardonable."

    "This provocation by North Korea compromises the peace and security of not only South Korea, but also the entire region of North East Asia, including Japan. Japan demands North Korea to stop such action immediately," the statement said.

    Asked whether the violence in the Yellow Sea would make resumption of six-party talks more difficult, Bosworth said, it's never been easy to reconvene the talks.

    Yeonpyeong island is part of a small archipelago about 80 kilometers [49 miles] west of the South Korean port of Inchon, which serves Seoul, and is close to the tense Northern Limit Line, the maritime border between the two Koreas in the Yellow Sea.

    North Korean artillery is extremely difficult to hit, because it is dug into coastal cliffs. Though the North has tested its artillery -- and tested anti-shipping missiles -- it has not fired artillery into South Korean territory in recent years. One of North Korea's most potent threats is artillery dug in along its demilitarized zone with South Korea and ranged on Seoul.

    While the reason for the attack was in dispute, one North Korea watcher said the incident stems from the nuclear issue..

    Choi Jin-wook, senior researcher at the Korea Institute of National Unification, said Pyongyang is "frustrated with Washington's response to their uranium program and they think that Washington has almost given up on negotiations with North Korea."

    "I think they realize they can't expect anything from Washington or Seoul for several months, so I think they made the provocation."

    "I definitely think this is centrally directed from Pyongyang. This can't be done without orders from Pyongyang," he added.

    Meanwhile, with national leader Kim Jong Il apparently in ailing health, his son Kim Jong Un is being raised to prominence in the isolated state, in what pundits see as a succession process.
     
  2. Pull_Up_3

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    Already posted brah Sh** got real
     
  3. tested911

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    What this really means is that LCD/LED prices are about to skyrocket :p
     
  4. SwoLy-D

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    Maybe they're stimulating their economy by trading fire. :eek:
    white???? Friday? :confused:
     
  5. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    I don't think it's a repost if it's in the D&D. That place is like bizarro CF.net.

    Thanks for the info L-A.
     
  6. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    I just read about this; scary. I also agree with it not being a re-post if it's in the D&D. Personally, I completely avoid that forum (for obvious reasons).
     
  7. SwoLy-D

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    What obvious reasons? :confused: I don't get it. They "seclude" you?
     
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    seclusion rip chadwick

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    Wow, that was clever; so witty! The obvious reason would be that forum gets ridiculous. Have you ever read it?
     
  9. Jontro

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    That's crazy.

    Not to bring this into a second D&D thread, especially since I don't have enough knowledge for that... but wouldn't South Korea easily beat North if they go on a full out war? I mean, I would think South Korea has newer artillery than their Northern brothers.
     
  10. GlenRice

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    Start of ww3
     
  11. SwoLy-D

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    But why is that "obvious" that you stay away from it? :confused: It would be obvious if I knew you couldn't debate or discuss... but it was ironic, coming from "seclusion"... ;) You get me?
     
  12. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    (Tactical Opinion) Don't think that the Chinese aren't backing these wackjobs with tech. But the US is backing the S. Koreans, so I'll take our stuff over chinese hardware any day.
     
  13. Prince

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    Not good.

    Nostradamus prophecy is unravelling..
     
  14. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    I get you; forgive me I'm used to playing dealing with teenagers on the Internet. Touché and all of that. :p
     
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    I believe in finding humor in hard times and all but I feel the first few comments in this thread are a little insensitive to those of us who have family in S. Korea.
     
  16. mtbrays

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    I don't think it would matter if the South could easily beat the North. North Korea has nearly all of their military trained on Seoul, pop. 10 million, and would not hesitate to wipe out as much of that city as they could. They would probably relish the chance to go out in a blaze of firepower. Their people are so indoctrinated that they would probably do it to.

    The issue isn't who would win in a war. It's how many people would be sentenced to near automatic death in the event of a new Korean war.
     
  17. HAYJON02

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    We should send them each fruit baskets and sign the tag from each other.
     
  18. UTweezer

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    When will this end.

    South Korea won't do anything; they're caught between China & the USA; pretty much a castrated puppet state. NO offense, I'm Korean-American myself, just my opinion.
     
  19. boomboom

    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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    Bieber-envy.
     
  20. CheezeyBoy22

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    Just saw on the news that S. Korea vows enormous retaliation if N. Korea strikes again.

    I don't think N. Korea will strike.
     

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