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Nobody will rat out Saddam

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Faos, Jun 8, 2004.

  1. Faos

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    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...fp/iraq_saddam_justice_040608000035&printer=1

    LONDON (AFP) - Prosecutors are struggling to build a case against Saddam Hussein because they lack both witnesses and evidence to prove the ousted Iraqi dictator is guilty of atrocities.

    Although the US-led coalition has caught 40 of the 55 people on its list of "most-wanted" Iraqis linked to Saddam's former regime, none of them will testify for the prosecution, according to a British official quoted by The Times on Monday.

    "It's the fear factor," he explained. "Saddam may be in custody but the other detainees know from past experience that if they turned 'Queen's evidence', revenge would be taken against members of their families".

    The newspaper's source also said the Iraqi dictator, ousted by the US and British invasion in March 2003, had hidden any written proof of his direct responsibility for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    "Saddam was very clever at power-laundering, which meant that decisions were filtered down to junior levels, making it difficult to prove a direct line of responsibility", the source said.

    Saddam has been in US custody in an undisclosed location since his capture on December 13, and is due to be tried along other members of his ousted regime by a special Iraqi tribunal.

    He is likely to be tried for the persecution of the Shiite Marsh Arabs in southern Iraq (news - web sites) in the 1980s and 1990s, as well as for alleged war crimes against Kuwait.

    Iran is also believed to be preparing a formal complaint against him for the torture of Iranian prisoners captured during the 1980-1988 war.

    A 20-member defense team appointed by Saddam's family has complained about not being able to meet its client and accused the US authorities of holding him in breach of the Geneva Conventions.
     
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  3. Faos

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    Except that a certain president hasn't filled graves with hundreds of thousands of American citizens.
     
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    however much you might dislike this man...there is no comparison between our current president and saddam hussein. none. let's keep some perspective.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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  8. Faos

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    I hope you aren't seriously comparing the two. If so you need to seek help.
     
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    mark, you know i've been critical of bush here. but come freaking on. this is ridiculous. we're finding mass graves in iraq...the man literally had his whole country in fear that if you said something bad about him, you'd be taken away, tortured and killed. if you truly fear that of this president right now, you are beyond irrational.
     
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    Jesus H. Christ! Why do I have to make a point with an article?

    Do you think I posted it to slam the left or prop up Bush?

    It's a freakin' news worthy article. I found it interesting that they can't find anyone willing to testify...nothing more. You are the one who deciding to turn this into another liberal bash Bush thread.
     
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    Strangely enough . . . i did not think u was talking about Bush JR

    or even Clinton

    Rocket River
     
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    I've been calling you other things, none of which is "Mark".

    :)
     
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    mc mark- this is out of line. Some actual discussion might be possible in this thread if you would stop derailing it. I'm a liberal voting for Kerry this election and even I think this silly crap of comparing Bush with Saddam is crossing the line. Could we have some actual discussion in here please. Please.


    edit- changed "here" to "in this thread"
     
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    everybody happy?
     
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    ...mc mark- you better listen to the Dr.

    Does this qualify for actual discussion? I looked up some terms in the rap dictionary for everyone:)

    mark
    1) (n) A sucker, a target for gaffling and crime. "You mark-azz busta, you betta raise up" -- Dr. Dre
    2) (n) Someone who is claiming a set to which he does not belong.

    MC
    (n) Probably Jamaican, in which case it comes from the TV game shows, Master of Ceremonies (although the term existed before TV). It was the only person at a gathering that was allowed to use the microphone. Could also stand for Microphone Controller, Mic Checka. "The term, MC, stand for Master of Ceremonies" --- A Tribe Called Quest (Midnight Marauders [1993]).

    http://www.rapdict.org/terms/m
     
  20. RocketMan Tex

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    It's silly to compare Dubya and Saddam.

    Now, on to comparing Dubya and Reagan!

    Hint: There is no comparison since Reagan knew how to COMMUNICATE!:D
     

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