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No worries from me, Dean is the last nail in coffin for gun control...

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  1. ROXRAN

    ROXRAN Member

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    Neo-demos! Your day in hedonistic-styled vitriol self-appreciation is over! You cuddle in a stench and can't even realize what it is that truly stinks... The reincarnation of Randy Macho Man Dean's downfall last fall may have been as close to winning what you have now lost. The future of a senate miniority leader and DNC chaiman is pro-gun, of course you can't see the forest for the trees, and I will infer the future of the DNC isn't what is was ever more for the neo-demos...
    Of course history may be repeated, and the downfall of the democratic party will be assured...

    The last nail in gun control
    By Bob Cusackand Elizabeth Fulk
    The expected election of former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean as chairman of the Democratic National Committee this month will strike a crippling blow to the gun-control movement, lobbyists and political observers say.

    Like Dean, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is a strong supporter of gun rights. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) supports gun control but rarely mentioned the issue before the 2004 election.
    Patrick G. Ryan

    Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) supports gun rights.

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    National Rifle Association (NRA) Executive Director Chris Cox said Dean, whom the NRA endorsed when he was running for governor, was taking over a party that had suffered electorally for its embrace of gun control.
    Over the past decade, the issue had become strongly partisan, but gun-rights groups say the political winds have shifted.

    Most Democrats supported the renewal of the assault-weapons ban in 2004, but few campaigned on it. To the delight of gun-rights groups, the ban expired in September. Reid, along with five other Senate Democrats, voted against renewing the 10-year ban last March.

    Reid has maintained close ties to both local and federal gun-rights groups, particularly the NRA.

    On Sept. 22, 2004, Cox wrote Reid a thank-you note stating, “On behalf of the nearly 4 million NRA members nationwide, I wanted to thank you personally for your efforts in defending the Second Amendment during your tenure in Congress.”

    Cox pointed out that while Pelosi was “no friend of the NRA,” close to 50 Democrats in the House support the organization.

    “We continue to watch both sides of the aisle carefully,” Cox said.

    Several House Democrats and some Northeastern Republicans strongly urged the president to renew the weapons ban last year. However, they did not attempt to force it to the House floor through a discharge petition.

    Much of the attention on the race for DNC chairman has been on abortion. Former Rep. Tim Roemer’s (D-Ind.) bid to run the DNC has been hampered by the fact that he, like Reid, opposes abortion rights. Dean’s huge lead in the DNC race suggests that abortion rights is far more important to the Democratic base than gun control.

    Robert Spitzer, political science professor at State University of New York-Cortland said, “The gun issue has historically been a cyclical issue, and we’re in a cycle right now where there is less interest in gun control for a variety of reasons. The Democrats feel they were burned in 2000 on the gun issue. And enough Democrats believe it to be so that the Democratic Party doesn’t have the same zeal for the issue that it did earlier.”

    Spitzer added that gun control would eventually get more attention again, saying, “I don’t mean a few months; I mean a few years. But the issue will return.”

    Last year, Sen. John Kerry’s campaign arranged several photo opportunities of the presidential candidate hunting. Democrats said the Kerry campaign believed Al Gore made a huge tactical error by repeatedly talking about gun control during the 2000 campaign for the White House.

    In his book released last year, former President Clinton wrote that the passage of the gun ban was a major contributing factor in the Republican takeover of Congress in 1994.
    Even so, gun-control advocates say they are not worried about Dean running the DNC. Peter Hamm, communications director for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said, “If Governor Dean is elected as chair, we are certain he will be someone who represents all facets of the party. We don’t think it would send a serious message that the party was moving in the wrong direction.”
     
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  2. underoverup

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    How's it going bamaslamma?
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    So you like Dean?

    He is against gun control and a supporter of gun rights.

    You want more gun control? I don't understand what your point is.
     
  4. ROXRAN

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    The point is if the Democrats have him as the point man and supporter of gun rights, and a senate minority leader as supporters of gun rights, then...then I'm reading the phrase: "gun rights" more often, and it's good...
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    Single issue voter to the rescue!!
     
  6. No Worries

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    So Dean is now rewriting the platform for the Democratic party?

    Dean if he is to believed wants the platform for the party to be built from the ground up via the grassroots. If the grassroots want the Dems to be anti-gun, then I suspect that Dean will not fight it.
     

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